medicaid while sponsor the husband

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

3 hours ago, Donald120383 said:

looks like they are digging up all the possible laws to only allow the rich folks to enter the country 

What is rich? categories people as rich, just because they have health care? Seriously 

 

im not rich by a long shot, but I do think I’m a responsible adult who works and purchases health care to ensure both my family and my welfare.. I still live paycheck to paycheck, that isn’t what I’d call rich.. 

[AnnaLee24 16]

7 hours ago, Senior Frog said:

you right. but also
*Last Reviewed/Updated: 01/30/2020

 

The part in the gray (01/30/2020) is explaining what is changing/updating. The part in under the gray is (04/29/2011) is the rule now. The gray box is essentially a post-it note slapped over the old guidance saying “this is changing soon y’all”

[cd37 229]

9 hours ago, Donald120383 said:

looks like they are digging up all the possible laws to only allow the rich folks to enter the country 

This is to limit abuse of welfare. Poverty guidelines defined by dhs is very low, you dont need to be rich to sponsor someone. 

[Crazy Cat 39,335]

9 hours ago, Donald120383 said:

looks like they are digging up all the possible laws to only allow the rich folks to enter the country 

It isn't about being rich.  It's about self-sufficiency.  In some parts of the US, it certainly takes more money to be self-sufficient.

[SJordanS 342]

19 hours ago, Senior Frog said:

my wife USC we filed i-130 and waiting for NOA2 she has medicaid (she is a mother of 2 kids) and she has above 125% of the poverty line
is she has to stop the medicaid in order to sponsor me (as husband). is this make any troubles after the new puplic charge law ? 

thanks

@Mya.Mya

[Villanelle 4,121]

I also think its worth pointing out there are 2 different issues of concern overlapping here yet being discussed as it is one. 

 

One issue of concern is the USC being eligible as a sponsor for the 864. The other is the immigrant as a public charge. They are two different yet related issues. So pointing to a memo/policy that states using medicaid does not make you a public charge is irrelevant to the fact that a USC that uses medicaid may not qualify to sponsor due to use of it. 

[Senior Frog 3]

well, after long deep search i found that there is 2 types of medicaid. the state medicaid and the federal medicaid
and its looks like the state medicaid is okay  to have it as a sponsor as USC. after all of that long search i'm still not sure
and have no idea, anyone have something to say or confirm something about this matter?

thanks .

Edited February 3, 2020 by Senior Frog

[LizaJane 13]

On 2/2/2020 at 5:29 PM, geowrian said:

True. But the sponsor being on public assistance programs is a factor in totality of circumstances.

 

Per the FAM: https://fam.state.gov/FAM/09FAM/09FAM030208.html#M302_8_2_B_2

 

If they have a cosponsor does it lessen the impact it has that the US citizen spouse is recieving healthcare via the government?

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

1 hour ago, Senior Frog said:

well, after long deep search i found that there is 2 types of medicaid. the state medicaid and the federal medicaid
and its looks like the state medicaid is okay  to have it as a sponsor as USC. after all of that long search i'm still not sure
and have no idea, anyone have something to say or confirm something about this matter?

thanks .

I understand there are two types of Medicaid.. but I’m not sure there is a difference between the two by way of it being funded, both are funded by the public.. irrespective of it coming from the state or federal budget.. 

 

focus shouldnt be on which one you can have in order for it not to affect you.. your focus should be on gaining work or employment that provides health cover or the purchasing it individually.. 

 

the whole point of this is to stop people from being dependent on the tax payer, if your sponsor can’t be self sufficient how do you expect them to support you?

 

its not hard to get an employer who offers health cover, my mom in law works at SAMs Warehouse part time and has coverage. That’s a minimum pay job not some high profile university degree type position. there are very few people out that incapable of working PT.. 

Edited February 4, 2020 by Duke & Marie

[LizaJane 13]

19 hours ago, Donald120383 said:

looks like they are digging up all the possible laws to only allow the rich folks to enter the country 

Agreed. Sad state of affairs. 

[geowrian 22,335]

19 minutes ago, LizaJane said:

If they have a cosponsor does it lessen the impact it has that the US citizen spouse is recieving healthcare via the government?

A suitable joint sponsor would not mean they ignore it completely (I have seen a handful of non-marriage cases where they refused any joint sponsor), but it would generally go a long way to showing that the intending immigrant will not become a public charge.

[LizaJane 13]

5 hours ago, Villanelle said:

I also think its worth pointing out there are 2 different issues of concern overlapping here yet being discussed as it is one. 

 

One issue of concern is the USC being eligible as a sponsor for the 864. The other is the immigrant as a public charge. They are two different yet related issues. So pointing to a memo/policy that states using medicaid does not make you a public charge is irrelevant to the fact that a USC that uses medicaid may not qualify to sponsor due to use of it. 

I agree. It's being lumped together and it gets confusing. I also don't understand how they can lump everyone together when determining who may or may not become a public charge. If a USC is on state insurance his or her immigrant spouse isn't receiving those benifits and who is to say that spouse coming here and working wouldn't help the USC get out of the state funded healthcare system? Everyone has different circumstances that aren't clearly known just by filling out some standard forms.

[igoyougoduke 1,605]

14 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

I understand there are two types of Medicaid.. but I’m not sure there is a difference between the two by way of it being funded, both are funded by the public.. irrespective of it coming from the state or federal budget.. 

 

focus shouldnt be on which one you can have in order for it not to affect you.. your focus should be on gaining work or employment that provides health cover or the purchasing it individually.. 

 

the whole point of this is to stop people from being dependent on the tax payer, if your sponsor can’t be self sufficient how do you expect them to support you?

 

its not hard to get an employer who offers health cover, my mom in law works at SAMs Warehouse part time and has coverage. That’s a minimum pay job not some high profile university degree type position. there are very few people out that incapable of working PT.. 

it is a loop hole to stop immigrants from poor countries. 

15 hours ago, Duke & Marie said:

What is rich? categories people as rich, just because they have health care? Seriously 

 

im not rich by a long shot, but I do think I’m a responsible adult who works and purchases health care to ensure both my family and my welfare.. I still live paycheck to paycheck, that isn’t what I’d call rich.. 

 An average person in Australia is richer than an average person from somalia. 

[LizaJane 13]

4 minutes ago, geowrian said:

A suitable joint sponsor would not mean they ignore it completely (I have seen a handful of non-marriage cases where they refused any joint sponsor), but it would generally go a long way to showing that the intending immigrant will not become a public charge.

I understand but I think it's horribly unfair. The way I see it is the fact that a USC has used state health insurance has no bearing on whether the immigrant spouse will. Perhaps the spouse living here and working is what can help the USC get off government insurance. Everyone has different circumstances and it just may be that the immigrant spouse can get a better job with benifits than the USC can. So why is that not taken into account, know what I mean?

[LizaJane 13]

15 hours ago, Duke & Marie said:

What is rich? categories people as rich, just because they have health care? Seriously 

 

im not rich by a long shot, but I do think I’m a responsible adult who works and purchases health care to ensure both my family and my welfare.. I still live paycheck to paycheck, that isn’t what I’d call rich.. 

I'm a working responsible adult as well and have worked since age 14. Yet I work in an industry that does not generally provide health insurance  and I don't make anywhere near enough to purchase my own for myself and my two daughters. That doesn't by any means make me or people like me irresponsible for using sate health insurance.