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Hi. Quick question and hoping to hear from people who actually went through similar situations. I've done read everything there is to read and I can't find an answer. 

So I'm a US citizen and applying for my mother to come visit me in the US. I filled out the ds160 as I'm gonna be paying for her trip expenses. Now I need to know what kind of documents I can send with her to show as a proof I'll be responsible for her expenses.. I wrote and singed a letter but I think sending something more official would be better. 

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Nothing is needed from you to show that you will provide for her expenses. The challenge will be convincing the CO that she intends to return home.

The letter will not be considered.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/tourism-visit/visitor.html

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Note: Visa applicants must qualify on the basis of the applicant's residence and ties abroad, rather than assurances from U.S. family and friends. A letter of invitation or Affidavit of Support is not needed to apply for a visitor visa. If you choose to bring a letter of invitation or Affidavit of Support to your interview, please remember it is not one of the factors used in determining whether to issue or deny the visa.

 

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Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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9 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Nothing is needed from you to show that you will provide for her expenses. The challenge will be convincing the CO that she intends to return home.

The letter will not be considered.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/tourism-visit/visitor.html

 

Thx I was hoping to hear from people who went through similar situations. As I mentioned I've done read all the info on the consulate website. 

If you cannot cover all the costs for your trip, you may show evidence that another person will cover some or all costs for your trip." 

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6 minutes ago, Tarik said:

Thx I was hoping to hear from people who went through similar situations. As I mentioned I've done read all the info on the consulate website. 

If you cannot cover all the costs for your trip, you may show evidence that another person will cover some or all costs for your trip." 

Submitting such a letter could do more harm than help......

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Just now, missileman said:

Submitting such a letter could do more harm than help......

If they even look at it. They almost never look at documents anyway.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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51 minutes ago, Tarik said:

Hi. Quick question and hoping to hear from people who actually went through similar situations. I've done read everything there is to read and I can't find an answer. 

So I'm a US citizen and applying for my mother to come visit me in the US. I filled out the ds160 as I'm gonna be paying for her trip expenses. Now I need to know what kind of documents I can send with her to show as a proof I'll be responsible for her expenses.. I wrote and singed a letter but I think sending something more official would be better. 

You are hurting your mother’s chances of getting a visa doing this

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2 minutes ago, Nat&Amy said:

In many cases, organizations, schools and companies fund trips for certain individuals and in this scenario, yes, showing that your visit is being funded by a third party is optional. Even then, the burden to show ties to home country is on the applicant and no one else.

 

An entirely different situation is when a family member or friend decides to "sponsor" a visitor. As the posts above me have warned, having a relative in the US is more of a disadvantage than an advantage, because it raises the suspicion that said relative might as well shoulder the costs of a potential overstay.

 

To this day, I am still to see anyone here on VJ report that their "funding" has assisted in a visitor visa for a family member. On the other hand, you will see many stories of people that had a visa denied despite said "sponsorship".

Yeah I understand and totally agree with you.. But we wanted to be honest on the application and since we filled it out as I was paying for her expenses, I figured they will want to see proof of that.. But we will find out at the interview I guess 😊

Thx for the response. 

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Just now, Nitas_man said:

You are hurting your mother’s chances of getting a visa doing this

I don't think so.. Just being honest. If they deny her so be it. 

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12 minutes ago, Nat&Amy said:

To this day, I am still to see anyone here on VJ report that their "funding" has assisted in a visitor visa for a family member. On the other hand, you will see many stories of people that had a visa denied despite said "sponsorship".

I've seen a few people swear by it. I have yet to see any evidence supporting their claims, though.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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1 minute ago, geowrian said:

I've seen a few people swear by it. I have yet to see any evidence supporting their claims, though.

I don't really understand the logic behind having an immediate family member in the US  could hurt your application since u have to provide a reason for the visit... I'm a US citizen and my mother wants to come visit me and see her grandson. It's ridiculous that having a son and grandson u want to visit could be harmful.. Instead I guess it would be better to say ur visiting the US to see some meaningless attractions smh. 

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15 minutes ago, Tarik said:

I don't really understand the logic behind having an immediate family member in the US  could hurt your application since u have to provide a reason for the visit... I'm a US citizen and my mother wants to come visit me and see her grandson. It's ridiculous that having a son and grandson u want to visit could be harmful.. Instead I guess it would be better to say ur visiting the US to see some meaningless attractions smh. 

Depends on what country they are from


 

 

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18 minutes ago, Tarik said:

I don't really understand the logic behind having an immediate family member in the US  could hurt your application since u have to provide a reason for the visit... I'm a US citizen and my mother wants to come visit me and see her grandson. It's ridiculous that having a son and grandson u want to visit could be harmful.. Instead I guess it would be better to say ur visiting the US to see some meaningless attractions smh. 

Having no family = having no means to legally stay, and illegally staying has hurdles.

Having close family, especially USC immediate relatives = means to stay. Unfortunately, many people have abused immigration in the past this way, which is why it can be harmful.

 

The reason to visit as a tourist has very little value. They don't care if you want to go to Disneyland or see a relative. They care about having a compelling reason to return home afterwards.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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1 minute ago, geowrian said:

Having no family = having no means to legally stay, and illegally staying has hurdles.

Having close family, especially USC immediate relatives = means to stay. Unfortunately, many people have abused immigration in the past this way, which is why it can be harmful.

 

The reason to visit as a tourist has very little value. They don't care if you want to go to Disneyland or see a relative. They care about having a compelling reason to return home afterwards.

Agreed... Which for a 57 years old woman leaving husband, children and grandchildren back home should be a reason compelling enough to show she will return. 

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1 hour ago, Tarik said:

Agreed... Which for a 57 years old woman leaving husband, children and grandchildren back home should be a reason compelling enough to show she will return. 

It isn't

owning property in her name

having a bank account

and/or a job to return to

 

and yes,  we tried it and from Morocco like you,  got denied for MIL

mostly as she can not read and write

but now,  we applied without any documents from us and she was approved and coming this summer

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