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Today i got NOID(notice of intent to deny)..what does it mean?m i gonna deny?they ask me to submit documents showing joint bank account ,joint ownership of property, joint credit card statement,jointly held insurance policy,utility bills etc..how can we show them when we r not living together..my husband is in america n i m in pakistan...plz help me understand this notice..what will happen next if my case denied?

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How long have you been married and what documents were provided?  


Removal of Conditions

12/29/2018  Sent ROC package to Dallas PO Box by USPS Priority Mail. 

12/30/2018  ROC package arrived & ready for pickup at Dallas PO Box at 7pm.

12/31/2018  USCIS received date

01/03/2019  Credit card transaction alert received at 7:10am authorizing charge of $680 to USCIS Dallas Lockbox

01/03/2019  Received text message from USCIS stating original receipt to follow in mail and a receipt number starting with MSC.

01/07/2019  Added receipt number to myaccount.uscis.dhs.gov/ and it shows case received and nothing to do at this time.

01/11/2019  Received US Postal Service Informed Delivery email at 8:20am showing incoming letter from USCIS.

01/11/2019  Received biometric appointment in the mail.  Biometric appointment is for 01/22/2019

01/14/2019  Completed walk-in biometric at Tampa Field Office.

01/29/2019  Filed an online e-request due to no I-797 receipt mailed to date.  Received automated email to expect a reply by Feb. 20.

01/30/2019  E-request response received.  They will send a duplicate receipt and we should receive it within 30 days.

02/04/2019  Informed delivery show an incoming letter form USCIS.  Won't know if it is a copy or original extension letter as we are out of country for about another 2 weeks and mail is on hold until then.

02/19/2019  USPS delivered our "hold mail" today.  Received an original 18 month extension letter.   Notice date is 01/30/2019.

04/13/2019  Checked case status online.  Case is ready to be scheduled for an interview as of 04/04/2019

 

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Just now, gregcrs2 said:

How long have you been married and what documents were provided?  

We hve married since march 2016..my husband filed our petition in april 2017..we hve provided marriage certificate,birth certificate ,passport photocopies,his green card photo copy..

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6 minutes ago, Tulip_1 said:

We hve married since march 2016..my husband filed our petition in april 2017..we hve provided marriage certificate,birth certificate ,passport photocopies,his green card photo copy..

A NOID doesn’t automatically mean your case will be denied. It does not mean that your application has already been rejected. Upon receipt of a NOID, you have XX days to respond. If you do not respond, it's likely your application will be formally rejected. The NOID is your opportunity to respond with more evidence.  Based on what you say has been submitted, you have not provided any evidence of a bonafide marriage.  If your spouse visited you since marriage, provide copies of airline boarding passes.   Do you have any accounts together in your country?  Does your spouse have you listed as a beneficiary of any life insurance policy or as beneficiary of any retirement account?  You cannot provide what you don't have but certainly there should be a few things showing evidence of a bonafide marriage.  What can you show that you have a real ongoing relationship?  


Removal of Conditions

12/29/2018  Sent ROC package to Dallas PO Box by USPS Priority Mail. 

12/30/2018  ROC package arrived & ready for pickup at Dallas PO Box at 7pm.

12/31/2018  USCIS received date

01/03/2019  Credit card transaction alert received at 7:10am authorizing charge of $680 to USCIS Dallas Lockbox

01/03/2019  Received text message from USCIS stating original receipt to follow in mail and a receipt number starting with MSC.

01/07/2019  Added receipt number to myaccount.uscis.dhs.gov/ and it shows case received and nothing to do at this time.

01/11/2019  Received US Postal Service Informed Delivery email at 8:20am showing incoming letter from USCIS.

01/11/2019  Received biometric appointment in the mail.  Biometric appointment is for 01/22/2019

01/14/2019  Completed walk-in biometric at Tampa Field Office.

01/29/2019  Filed an online e-request due to no I-797 receipt mailed to date.  Received automated email to expect a reply by Feb. 20.

01/30/2019  E-request response received.  They will send a duplicate receipt and we should receive it within 30 days.

02/04/2019  Informed delivery show an incoming letter form USCIS.  Won't know if it is a copy or original extension letter as we are out of country for about another 2 weeks and mail is on hold until then.

02/19/2019  USPS delivered our "hold mail" today.  Received an original 18 month extension letter.   Notice date is 01/30/2019.

04/13/2019  Checked case status online.  Case is ready to be scheduled for an interview as of 04/04/2019

 

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54 minutes ago, gregcrs2 said:

A NOID doesn’t automatically mean your case will be denied. It does not mean that your application has already been rejected. Upon receipt of a NOID, you have XX days to respond. If you do not respond, it's likely your application will be formally rejected. The NOID is your opportunity to respond with more evidence.  Based on what you say has been submitted, you have not provided any evidence of a bonafide marriage.  If your spouse visited you since marriage, provide copies of airline boarding passes.   Do you have any accounts together in your country?  Does your spouse have you listed as a beneficiary of any life insurance policy or as beneficiary of any retirement account?  You cannot provide what you don't have but certainly there should be a few things showing evidence of a bonafide marriage.  What can you show that you have a real ongoing relationship?  

Thank u so much for ur response..but we dont have any joint account or any insurance policy as we hve been living separately tht's y we hve not thought of having anything  joint..he send me money through western union..yes he visited once after marriage back in december 2018..do u hve any idea what's gonna happen if i fail to submitt any evidence regarding joint account or insurance policy an all tht..yes i do have my wedding invitation card,pictures of marriage n outings,whatsapp chat,reciept of gifts he sent me previously,affidavit of third party having knowledge of bonafide marriage..is this enough evidence?following is the list of things they want..

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They pretty much told you what they want so follow that. 

To get on a bank account without being in the US use W8-ben from irs. 

Husband can also list you as beneficiary of his life insurance- nothing preventing it. 

 


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3 minutes ago, milimelo said:

They pretty much told you what they want so follow that. 

To get on a bank account without being in the US use W8-ben from irs. 

Husband can also list you as beneficiary of his life insurance- nothing preventing it. 

 

Is this possible to get bank account without being in the US?

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20 minutes ago, Tulip_1 said:

Thank u so much for ur response..but we dont have any joint account or any insurance policy as we hve been living separately tht's y we hve not thought of having anything  joint..he send me money through western union..yes he visited once after marriage back in december 2018..do u hve any idea what's gonna happen if i fail to submitt any evidence regarding joint account or insurance policy an all tht..yes i do have my wedding invitation card,pictures of marriage n outings,whatsapp chat,reciept of gifts he sent me previously,affidavit of third party having knowledge of bonafide marriage..is this enough evidence?following is the list of things they want..

 

Your spouse does not have any life insurance through the employer?  You can't provide what you don't have but you should try to get as much as is available.  Did your spouse file taxes as "married filing separately or married filing jointly"?  Tax transcripts should be provided for years 2016 -2018.  I think you will need more than just what you mentioned above as the two of you have been married since March 2016.  The more relevant documentation you can provide, the better your chances of success.


Removal of Conditions

12/29/2018  Sent ROC package to Dallas PO Box by USPS Priority Mail. 

12/30/2018  ROC package arrived & ready for pickup at Dallas PO Box at 7pm.

12/31/2018  USCIS received date

01/03/2019  Credit card transaction alert received at 7:10am authorizing charge of $680 to USCIS Dallas Lockbox

01/03/2019  Received text message from USCIS stating original receipt to follow in mail and a receipt number starting with MSC.

01/07/2019  Added receipt number to myaccount.uscis.dhs.gov/ and it shows case received and nothing to do at this time.

01/11/2019  Received US Postal Service Informed Delivery email at 8:20am showing incoming letter from USCIS.

01/11/2019  Received biometric appointment in the mail.  Biometric appointment is for 01/22/2019

01/14/2019  Completed walk-in biometric at Tampa Field Office.

01/29/2019  Filed an online e-request due to no I-797 receipt mailed to date.  Received automated email to expect a reply by Feb. 20.

01/30/2019  E-request response received.  They will send a duplicate receipt and we should receive it within 30 days.

02/04/2019  Informed delivery show an incoming letter form USCIS.  Won't know if it is a copy or original extension letter as we are out of country for about another 2 weeks and mail is on hold until then.

02/19/2019  USPS delivered our "hold mail" today.  Received an original 18 month extension letter.   Notice date is 01/30/2019.

04/13/2019  Checked case status online.  Case is ready to be scheduled for an interview as of 04/04/2019

 

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24 minutes ago, Tulip_1 said:

Is this possible to get bank account without being in the US?

Please don't focus on creating evidence just to have it..

The joint bank account, lease etc. is a type of evidence. Please read what it says in the letter you received: "This may include but is not limited to" so this does not mean that you have to provide all the items on the list. Just focus on the evidence that you mentioned you already have (the gifts, chats, pictures etc.). They hold much more evidence than a newly created joint bank account that is nothing but a fluffy piece of evidence. It is understandable that a couple that does not live in the same country yet does not have a joint bank account for example..

 

Good luck! You mentioned a lot of evidence so just send that in 👍🏻

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24 minutes ago, Tulip_1 said:

Is this possible to get bank account without being in the US?

At this point of time it will not be relevant if it's opened only after receiving a NOID.  


Removal of Conditions

12/29/2018  Sent ROC package to Dallas PO Box by USPS Priority Mail. 

12/30/2018  ROC package arrived & ready for pickup at Dallas PO Box at 7pm.

12/31/2018  USCIS received date

01/03/2019  Credit card transaction alert received at 7:10am authorizing charge of $680 to USCIS Dallas Lockbox

01/03/2019  Received text message from USCIS stating original receipt to follow in mail and a receipt number starting with MSC.

01/07/2019  Added receipt number to myaccount.uscis.dhs.gov/ and it shows case received and nothing to do at this time.

01/11/2019  Received US Postal Service Informed Delivery email at 8:20am showing incoming letter from USCIS.

01/11/2019  Received biometric appointment in the mail.  Biometric appointment is for 01/22/2019

01/14/2019  Completed walk-in biometric at Tampa Field Office.

01/29/2019  Filed an online e-request due to no I-797 receipt mailed to date.  Received automated email to expect a reply by Feb. 20.

01/30/2019  E-request response received.  They will send a duplicate receipt and we should receive it within 30 days.

02/04/2019  Informed delivery show an incoming letter form USCIS.  Won't know if it is a copy or original extension letter as we are out of country for about another 2 weeks and mail is on hold until then.

02/19/2019  USPS delivered our "hold mail" today.  Received an original 18 month extension letter.   Notice date is 01/30/2019.

04/13/2019  Checked case status online.  Case is ready to be scheduled for an interview as of 04/04/2019

 

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29 minutes ago, gregcrs2 said:

At this point of time it will not be relevant if it's opened only after receiving a NOID.  

U r right..we will submit what we have..lets see what our lawyer can do..thnk u so much for ur co operaation..

35 minutes ago, Daphne K said:

Please don't focus on creating evidence just to have it..

The joint bank account, lease etc. is a type of evidence. Please read what it says in the letter you received: "This may include but is not limited to" so this does not mean that you have to provide all the items on the list. Just focus on the evidence that you mentioned you already have (the gifts, chats, pictures etc.). They hold much more evidence than a newly created joint bank account that is nothing but a fluffy piece of evidence. It is understandable that a couple that does not live in the same country yet does not have a joint bank account for example..

 

Good luck! You mentioned a lot of evidence so just send that in 👍🏻

Thank u so much..

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1 hour ago, Tulip_1 said:

Is this possible to get bank account without being in the US?

Probably not.....buy he should have years of taxes filing as married......


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6 hours ago, Tulip_1 said:

Thank u so much for ur response..but we dont have any joint account or any insurance policy as we hve been living separately tht's y we hve not thought of having anything  joint..he send me money through western union..yes he visited once after marriage back in december 2018..do u hve any idea what's gonna happen if i fail to submitt any evidence regarding joint account or insurance policy an all tht..yes i do have my wedding invitation card,pictures of marriage n outings,whatsapp chat,reciept of gifts he sent me previously,affidavit of third party having knowledge of bonafide marriage..is this enough evidence?following is the list of things they want..

20190815_122738.jpg

Few that can help:

  1. Add your spouse to your credit card as an additional user.
  2. Flight tickets for vacation taken together.
  3. Wedding invitation
  4. wedding photos
  5. wedding invitations.
  6. Add your spouse as beneficiary on financial stuff etc.
  7. Considered filing your taxes as MFJ ?

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7 hours ago, Tulip_1 said:

Is this possible to get bank account without being in the US?

As others have mentioned, adding you to his United States bank account while you are NOTthe US maybe prove to be difficult. I have tried with at least 3 or 4 banks, here in CA, and they all demanded that the person I'm adding be physically present at the bank with a SS# or at least an ITIN. Some offered the option to add my spouse as a beneficiary, but all refused to add her to as co-owner to my account. That said, I have heard that some petitioners (on this forum) were able to add their foreign national spouse w/o being in the States. I think it depends on the bank and state your spouse lives in. On a separate note, what we did is open a joint bank account in the country my spouse lives in (when I was there to see her) and presented the original + a certified translation of the certificate of co-ownership, we've obtained from the bank) as additional evidence of our bona fide marriage. I've also added her to my retirement account, as beneficiary and filed my 2018 taxes as Married Filing Separately (MFS) with my spouse's name on the first page and even w/o having to apply for an ITIN. These are just a few things you guys can do to boost your file, but of course I would first and foremost focus of the items they asked you in that NOID...Good Luck!

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