Mother-in-Law Denied Tourist Visa from Mexico for having only 1 child

[visa992291 5]

Just now, Going through said:

Ensure your wife is aware that her mother needs to apply to be able to enter Canada as well.

She thinks it is just a payment thing and not really a huge ordeal like it is to get US visa. Will be looking into it soon.

[SalishSea 16,769]

2 minutes ago, visa992291 said:

She thinks it is just a payment thing and not really a huge ordeal like it is to get US visa. Will be looking into it soon.

Really?  The two countries share data though, so they will see the B-2 denial.

[Boiler 43,425]

You mentioned that you were looking at MIL immigrating and it seems that she is not independently wealthy and I assumed that you would be picking up the costs, the travel costs that seem to be giving you concern are minuscule compared to those.

[Going through 5,668]

12 minutes ago, visa992291 said:

She thinks it is just a payment thing and not really a huge ordeal like it is to get US visa. Will be looking into it soon.

Well there's two options----she can apply for a visitor's visa (which I sort of outlined above how it may not fare in her favour given the recent US visa denial).  Or she can apply online for ETA (presuming she's a citizen of Mexico with a valid passport)...if approved, the ETA is valid for up to 5 years and is generally adjudicated within minutes or up to a few days if she's asked to send supporting documents after applying online.

 

One is more of a "huge ordeal" just like getting a US visa than the other, of course.  Both involve convincing the authority of her intention to return to her home country afterwards.  She will be required to disclose the US denial on the ETA application, and for any Canada visitor visa application.  If she chooses not to disclose this, they will find out about it rather quickly through cross-checking as I mentioned before.

Edited June 26, 2019 by Going through

[visa992291 5]

2 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Really?  The two countries share data though, so they will see the B-2 denial.

But what can they think? That now my family (4 USCs) are going to illegally stay in Canada along with wife's mom?

 

Or that we will try to sneak her across the border? It's an obvious visit but for whatever reason she was denied... I'll try to find more info later they should be doing their hour-long daily ritual chat soon. 

 

Pretty black and white case. House mexico....Bunch of sisters Mexico. 70 years Mexico...Language/Culture/cousins/nieces/nephews/friends Mexico. Everything Mexico.

 

Politely requests visit to see the newborn and daughter in US....DENIED.... all your ties are to.......---------> The US?

 

I don't get it but I do understand that every one is a suspect. I would think on the 2nd or 3rd time they would approve of her.

[visa992291 5]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

You mentioned that you were looking at MIL immigrating and it seems that she is not independently wealthy and I assumed that you would be picking up the costs, the travel costs that seem to be giving you concern are minuscule compared to those.

I have no relationship with MIL. And on top of me not wanting her to permanently shackle up with us, my wife said her mom has zero interest in living here. 

 

Even said if my wife became a USC and got the auto-approval for her mom to get a greencard it would just be used for visits once every year or 2....And then people said the greencard is not for that. It is for permanent stays so that is now out of the question as an option.

[Going through 5,668]

7 minutes ago, visa992291 said:

Politely requests visit to see the newborn and daughter in US....DENIED

I just thought of something......ask your wife if her mom said anything in the interview about coming to the US to "help take care of the baby" or something along those lines.  Many tourist visas are quickly denied for that exact same reason as, even though it's a grandparent, it is viewed by the CO as "unauthorized work."

Edited June 26, 2019 by Going through

[visa992291 5]

2 minutes ago, Going through said:

I just thought of something......ask your wife if her mom said anything in the interview about coming to the US to "help take care of the baby" or something along those lines.  Many tourist visas are quickly denied for that exact same reason as, even though it's a grandparent, it is viewed by the CO as "unauthorized work."

I gave her a list of questions to ask her mom so can get better idea of what happened. 

[SalishSea 16,769]

19 minutes ago, visa992291 said:

But what can they think? That now my family (4 USCs) are going to illegally stay in Canada along with wife's mom?

 

Or that we will try to sneak her across the border? It's an obvious visit but for whatever reason she was denied... I'll try to find more info later they should be doing their hour-long daily ritual chat soon. 

 

Pretty black and white case. House mexico....Bunch of sisters Mexico. 70 years Mexico...Language/Culture/cousins/nieces/nephews/friends Mexico. Everything Mexico.

 

Politely requests visit to see the newborn and daughter in US....DENIED.... all your ties are to.......---------> The US?

 

I don't get it but I do understand that every one is a suspect. I would think on the 2nd or 3rd time they would approve of her.

You make a lot of assumptions, and it seems that you counter everything the experienced members of VJ have to say about this situation.

 

All you can do is to have her reapply or pursue the Canada ETA, and let us know how it goes.

[visa992291 5]

8 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

You make a lot of assumptions, and it seems that you counter everything the experienced members of VJ have to say about this situation.

 

All you can do is to have her reapply or pursue the Canada ETA, and let us know how it goes.

 

I agree with them --- she's screwed and will be dead before allowed to visit her grandchildren. 

 

Reading further into it for the 1st time, they want "strong" ties to home country which include "additional children in home country", professional employment, and property. 

 

She doesn't have additional children or professional employment so she doesn't pass the test. 

 

Willing to bet if she had 2 children in Acapulco and the 3rd in the US she probably would have got the visa.

Edited June 26, 2019 by visa992291

[HRQX 4,145]

38 minutes ago, visa992291 said:

Or that we will try to sneak her across the border?

To be fair, the border is very porous.

 

Edited June 26, 2019 by HRQX

[Just Paul 4,591]

1 hour ago, visa992291 said:

She thinks it is just a payment thing and not really a huge ordeal like it is to get US visa. Will be looking into it soon.

 

1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

Really?  The two countries share data though, so they will see the B-2 denial.

Mary applied for B2 for US, denied.

Mary applied for visitor visa for Canada, approved

We get the US Green card, new passport and new Canada ETA.

 

Yes they share info, but just because you have denial out there doesn't disqualify you everywhere.   Mary was also denied an EU visa and a Mexican Visa.  The later mostly because Manila Mexican Embassy couldn't figure out how to do a resident VISA.   We ended up getting that in Hong Kong. 

[arken 4,197]

46 minutes ago, visa992291 said:

 

I agree with them --- she's screwed and will be dead before allowed to visit her grandchildren. 

If she dies before seeing her grandchildren, I would say her daughter needs to be blamed first for not taking them to her before blaming US immigration system for not allowing her to visit US. 

 

 

[visa992291 5]

1 minute ago, arken said:

If she dies before seeing her grandchildren, I would say her daughter needs to be blamed first for not taking them to her before blaming US immigration system for not allowing her to visit US. 

 

 

Prob a visit in Canada or Acapulco this year. But what I mean by the comment is the US government is saying "you'll be dead before we allow you to step on US soil". I mean we can apply and apply and apply but if having a house in Mexico and all family in Mexico (with exception of 1 daughter) is not good enough then nothing can overturn the verdict because nothing can change. She's 65-70 and not going to be getting a high-paying job, starting a business, or popping out kids anytime soon! So surely reapplying would be a waste of time.

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