Mother-in-Law Denied Tourist Visa from Mexico for having only 1 child

[visa992291 5]

1 minute ago, Mollie09 said:

Green cards are not for "visiting once a year", if she uses it for that it will be revoked.

If your wife wants to petition her mother she is free to do so, the CO is assuming she is potentially bringing her mother to the US to adjust status, circumventing the visa process.

 

Interesting. So sounds like both a visitors visa and a green card are not options. 

 

Wonder why 75% get their B2 visas approved? Curious myself what she said in the interview as statistically-speaking she should have been approved. 

[visa992291 5]

6 minutes ago, Ontarkie said:

It sucks but the truth is your MIl has more ties to the US than Mexico. A daughter and grandchildren would trump any other relative. 

 

I kinda get the logic but really don't. All relatives would be somewhat equally suspicious. A cousin "seems legit" but also very suspicious. Same with a brother, uncle, nephew, etc....Those actually seem more suspicious to me because the desire to see each other, ie visit, is a lot stronger with a parent/child than it is with a cousin/uncle/nephew/brother (they don't really want to visit their family they are just here to skip town while the mom/daughter really just want to visit).

That's how I'm thinking about it but can be looked at in many ways. I don't think a mom/daughter mom/son etc. would be high on the list of things they look out for. 

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2 minutes ago, visa992291 said:

I kinda get the logic but really don't. All relatives would be somewhat equally suspicious. A cousin "seems legit" but also very suspicious. Same with a brother, uncle, nephew, etc....Those actually seem more suspicious to me because the desire to see each other, ie visit, is a lot stronger with a parent/child than it is with a cousin/uncle/nephew/brother (they don't really want to visit their family they are just here to skip town while the mom/daughter really just want to visit).

That's how I'm thinking about it but can be looked at in many ways. I don't think a mom/daughter mom/son etc. would be high on the list of things they look out for. 

See right there? Yes the bond with a child is stronger. So strong she may not want to leave. A brother, sister, cousin is exactly that hi bye see you in a few years. 

Add in grandkids and double whammy!

Edited June 25, 2019 by Ontarkie

[Just Paul 4,591]

Since your mother has a passport, have her get a Canadian Visa and meet her there for a few days.  That way she will have some travel history from a country that requires a visa.   If she can afford any other visa related trips that could also help in the event she tries again.

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1 minute ago, visa992291 said:

All relatives would be somewhat equally suspicious.

No.  Not at all........but the terms of service for this web site do not allow discussion of this in detail......

[Nat&Amy 623]

Just now, visa992291 said:

I kinda get the logic but really don't. All relatives would be somewhat equally suspicious. A cousin "seems legit" but also very suspicious. Same with a brother, uncle, nephew, etc....Those actually seem more suspicious to me because the desire to see each other, ie visit, is a lot stronger with a parent/child than it is with a cousin/uncle/nephew/brother (they don't really want to visit their family they are just here to skip town while the mom/daughter really just want to visit).

That's how I'm thinking about it but can be looked at in many ways. I don't think a mom/daughter mom/son etc. would be high on the list of things they look out for. 

Relatives that can apply for AoS are always gonna be seen as that, as people that will potentially enter the country for a visit and then have a change of mind and adjust status. As mentioned before, thank all the "visitors" that never left the country for that. Fair? Probably not. But the CO doesn't know your family, the character of the people involved, nada. They have to make a decision based on what they have, and what they have is an only daughter with grandkids, which configures a stronger reason to stay in the US than to return to Mexico.

[SalishSea 16,752]

1 hour ago, visa992291 said:

Agree with first part but incredibly wrong on the second part.

So my wife comes here in 2009 and over 10 years pass and her mom never even once applied for a tourist visa until now. Try to picture how long 10 years is. Really think about it. She has zero interest in anything other than visiting for a week or 2 and going back to her home. Again, I'm just playing telephone asking my wife what happened who asked her mom what happened. I wasn't there and don't even talk to her mom ever....Maybe 15 minutes in these last 10 years lol. But, they talk daily for about an hour.

Does not matter.  Intentions over a decade can change completely.  Just because someone wouldn't want to immigrate ten years ago, doesn't mean they don't now.  The CO saw her lack of family ties to Mexico, along with her age as equating to overstay risks.  

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3 minutes ago, Nat&Amy said:

Relatives that can apply for AoS are always gonna be seen as that, as people that will potentially enter the country for a visit and then have a change of mind and adjust status. As mentioned before, thank all the "visitors" that never left the country for that. Fair? Probably not. But the CO doesn't know your family, the character of the people involved, nada. They have to make a decision based on what they have, and what they have is an only daughter with grandkids, which configures a stronger reason to stay in the US than to return to Mexico.

 

So basically unless she gets a 30 year mortgage and starts a legitimate business in Mexico....she'll always be denied? Pretty much?

 

And even if she had these "ties" there is a 99.9999% chance the CO doesn't look at any paperwork....So pretty much instead of a 75% chance for approval (apparently the B2 Visa approval rate in Mexico) she is at an 80-90% chance of denial. Can apply 2x a year and maybe on the 8th or 9th interview they'll approve it (4 or 5 years from now).

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30 minutes ago, visa992291 said:

This assumes the "idiot behind the desk" (person that approves/denies application) is too dumb to realize my wife can just apply to be a USC and it guarantees that she can petition her mom a green card so that she can visit 1 time a year????

 

All 100% guaranteed approval??? Isn't that a good enough argument that the idiot behind the desk should approve?

That isn't the point.  That would be going about it the LEGAL and correct way.  COs are required BY LAW to presume that tourists coming on a B-2 have the intention of overstaying and adjusting 

 

Just curious, which visa did your wife adjust from?

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1 minute ago, Jorgedig said:

That isn't the point.  That would be going about it the LEGAL and correct way.  COs are required BY LAW to presume that tourists coming on a B-2 have the intention of overstaying and adjusting 

 

Just curious, which visa did your wife adjust from?

His wife was a K-1.

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Why don’t u go for option 2 ... it will take 1-1.5 years for her to get green card ... if I am not mistaken ???? 

 

however she needs to stay in USA permanently and cannot use that visa for visit only... it’s a immigrant visa 

[Boiler 43,402]

Seems odd that in 10 years they never met?

 

And I can not work out the air fares, suggest you double check, cheaper to fly to Asia.

 

Retiring in the US is only possible for the very wealthy so would give up on that.

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11 hours ago, visa992291 said:

This assumes the "idiot behind the desk" (person that approves/denies application) is too dumb to realize my wife can just apply to be a USC and it guarantees that she can petition her mom a green card so that she can visit 1 time a year????

 

All 100% guaranteed approval??? Isn't that a good enough argument that the idiot behind the desk should approve?

 

11 hours ago, visa992291 said:

I'm sure they are all functioning at above-average levels of intelligence. I'm sure there might be a slow one here or there but I'd assume the vast majority are pretty sharp as I'd imagine they'd have to be.

 

Just disappointed in the denial and think it is a funny name. I don't literally think they are idiots.

 

OK, I am going to bypass all the insults of CO's doing their job because you are obviously upset and disappointed. I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS tell people I know personally to NEVER expect to have family approved for a visitor visa. I especially say this to Americans because we can feel a teenie bit entitled on some things. And a denial of a simply visitor visa can set us off.

 

 

But seems like @Ontarkie is starting to get through to you on how this whole ordeal with immigration works.

11 hours ago, Ontarkie said:

See right there? Yes the bond with a child is stronger. So strong she may not want to leave. A brother, sister, cousin is exactly that hi bye see you in a few years. 

Add in grandkids and double whammy!

This is the most compelling argument for your mom having strong ties to the US. Her ONLY daughter. One that she hasn't seen in a decade. Her ONLY grandkids. No amount of siblings and other relatives can take away from that tie.

 

Also, as an example of how your MIL is a risk to possibly abuse the visitor visa later, IF your MIL does decide not to leave America if she got a visitor visa. Guess what? When your wife  later becomes a citizen, she could apply for her mom to be a permanent resident also which wipes away her overstaying. So she would still have a path to be legal in the US AND she could simply fly back to Mexico to see her family at any time afterwards.

 

Once you calm down and see the bigger picture, you start to see how your MIL is a higher risk of overstay than some others.

Edited June 26, 2019 by Unlockable
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2 hours ago, arken said:

Doesn’t she need visa to canada? If so dependent on that and the issues you mentioned.

 

1 hour ago, Paul & Mary said:

Since your mother has a passport, have her get a Canadian Visa and meet her there for a few days.

Mexican citizens can apply for Canada's Electronic Travel Authorization: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/eta/facts.html It costs 7 Canadian dollars to apply.

Edited June 25, 2019 by HRQX