Jurisdiction that allows you to remarry your spouse

[Crazy Cat 39,227]

8 minutes ago, Marriagejuris said:

We will disclose both marriages. That is something our lawyer has advised as well. I just need to know if there is any jurisdiction (like new york) that allows a couple to remarry with a new marriage date and certificate. 

Sorta like this:

https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/marrying-same-person-twice-in-two-different-countr-1327892.html (read lawyer answers)

We had a destination wedding in an asian country where neither of us is a resident, dont speak,read, or understand the language and everything there is via intermediaries who are essentially asking for bribes to get anything done. 

You can't have 2 simultaneous marriages......I think your only real option is to obtain an original marriage certificate from the country where you married.

[belinda63 2,981]

If the marriage was legal in the country it occurred USCIS will consider it a legal marriage. You will need to provide the certificate from this marriage.

[Crazy Cat 39,227]

1 minute ago, belinda63 said:

If the marriage was legal in the country it occurred USCIS will consider it a legal marriage. You will need to provide the certificate from this marriage.

Bingo!!!!

[nastra30 1,984]

If you are dealing with USCIS, you wouldn't want them to have slight inclination that you are trying to trick them with some re-marriage stuff. They will find out and petition/application will be scrutinized super hard. You'll need the original marriage certificate from whichever Asian country you got married in. You said you'll disclose both marriages, therefore you'll have to disclose both marriage certificates. If not, you'll get an RFE.

Either ways NJ does allow remarriage and guess what? The original marriage certificate is a requirement. Anyway, here's the NJ link and scroll down to remarriage section:

https://www.nj.gov/health/vital/registration-vital/marriage-licenses/#6

It's more like... to reaffirm your relationship/vows by registering a remarriage.

Good luck.

Edited January 23, 2019 by nastra30

[aaron2020 11,651]

17 hours ago, Marriagejuris said:

We will disclose both marriages. That is something our lawyer has advised as well. I just need to know if there is any jurisdiction (like new york) that allows a couple to remarry with a new marriage date and certificate. 

Sorta like this:

https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/marrying-same-person-twice-in-two-different-countr-1327892.html (read lawyer answers)

We had a destination wedding in an asian country where neither of us is a resident, dont speak,read, or understand the language and everything there is via intermediaries who are essentially asking for bribes to get anything done. 

The link showed someone who got married twice, so they have to disclose both marriage certificates.

 

With a re-marriage, you would have to disclose both marriage certificates.  That's what all the lawyers advised to the couple in the link you provided.

 

No idea why you think you need to get marry a second time.  What would be the purpose?  You still have to provide the certificate from your destination wedding.  

[kris&me 572]

Legalities of Renewing Your Marriage Vows

Remember that a renewal of your vows is not a legal ceremony. It is only a symbolic, sentimental ceremony. Generally, for a renewal of vows, a license is not required and paperwork is not needed. Some officiants and wedding chapels may request to see your marriage certificate to confirm that you are already married.

 

There may be hoops for you to jump through if your marriage was not and is not legal. If you have doubts about the legality of your original marriage and want to get remarried legally, it is best that you talk with your local government official in charge of marriages

 

many in.  NY  state  renew their vows as  my friends do  each  anniversery  but doesn't make this the legal marriage

[HonoraryCitizen 179]

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[ThomasNC1988 762]

19 hours ago, Marriagejuris said:

We will disclose both marriages. That is something our lawyer has advised as well. I just need to know if there is any jurisdiction (like new york) that allows a couple to remarry with a new marriage date and certificate. 

Sorta like this:

https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/marrying-same-person-twice-in-two-different-countr-1327892.html (read lawyer answers)

We had a destination wedding in an asian country where neither of us is a resident, dont speak,read, or understand the language and everything there is via intermediaries who are essentially asking for bribes to get anything done. 

My experience says just pay the bribes.

[Crazy Cat 39,227]

13 minutes ago, ThomasNC1988 said:

My experience says just pay the bribes.

It would help is the OP told us what country this is.......

[ThomasNC1988 762]

6 minutes ago, missileman said:

It would help is the OP told us what country this is.......

Any information would be better I think. If there marriage isn't valid in the eyes of USCIS a marriage after they have already filed isn't going to stop the denial, but who knows what they have and haven't filed. The only thing I could really think of is the date on the certificate predating the date of a finalize divorce for some reason.

[geowrian 22,335]

If the first marriage was legal, then there is no reason a remarriage is necessary.

If the first marriage was not legal, then there shouldn't be (much of) an issue getting legally married.

 

If the issue is with getting documentation for the first marriage, you're going to have to deal with it either way. A new marriage isn't going to resolve that.

To get any sort of new marriage license, you will have to affirm that you are not currently married. But you are.

To get any sort of "remarriage registered", you will need the previous, valid marriage certificate.

 

I'm failing to see how this fixes any immigration issues.

[mushroomspore 3,043]

21 hours ago, Marriagejuris said:

We will disclose both marriages. That is something our lawyer has advised as well. I just need to know if there is any jurisdiction (like new york) that allows a couple to remarry with a new marriage date and certificate. 

Sorta like this:

https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/marrying-same-person-twice-in-two-different-countr-1327892.html (read lawyer answers)

We had a destination wedding in an asian country where neither of us is a resident, dont speak,read, or understand the language and everything there is via intermediaries who are essentially asking for bribes to get anything done. 

Why does having a destination wedding in an Asian country where you don't understand the language warrant a "second marriage"? The certificate from that wedding and country are still valid, still legal, still recognized. You're making this way complicated for no reason and putting yourself in a weird legal situation that immigration officials will have trouble understanding. Heck, WE are having trouble understanding it just on this forum.

[Crazy Cat 39,227]

OP-  In what country did you marry?  There are posters here who might be able to offer some help.

[Marriagejuris 0]

I want to kick myself in the nads as I type this. Im divorced. When I went there, the translator said he spoke with someone in the court and he said that if my wife was aware of my divorce, I could simply state I am single on the application form. (Which I thought was true - I am single arent I? )Thinking this is legally allowed because the court guy said it, I agreed. I know, hind sight is 20/20. Then I saw this : https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/401816-cr1-denied-for-a-mistake-in-the-marriage-contract/ (not the same country, but the similar situation regardless)

 

Now to get it fixed I essenitally have to go back to the court and tell them the paperwork is wrong (I didnt understand what was on it to begin with - lord knows what I signed)

 

The translator is MIA. Maybe I am being paranoid and this will just cost a lot of money, - which I am OK with -  but the prospect of being in legal trouble in a country where no one speaks english is scaring me to death. 

 

So, consulting with a lawyer, we are looking to remarry in a jurisdiction that legally allows this. New york does, but if I could get her to NY, I would not need to do this to begin with. Just looking for a country that will allow us to marry again, properly disclosing that we are already married - the lawyer says its OK to marry the same person as many times as you want - which is something I know a lot of you disagree with, but multiple lawyers have confirmed. 

 

 

 

 

[Crazy Cat 39,227]

10 minutes ago, Marriagejuris said:

I want to kick myself in the nads as I type this. Im divorced. When I went there, the translator said he spoke with someone in the court and he said that if my wife was aware of my divorce, I could simply state I am single on the application form. (Which I thought was true - I am single arent I? )Thinking this is legally allowed because the court guy said it, I agreed. I know, hind sight is 20/20. Then I saw this : https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/401816-cr1-denied-for-a-mistake-in-the-marriage-contract/ (not the same country, but the similar situation regardless)

 

Now to get it fixed I essenitally have to go back to the court and tell them the paperwork is wrong (I didnt understand what was on it to begin with - lord knows what I signed)

 

The translator is MIA. Maybe I am being paranoid and this will just cost a lot of money, - which I am OK with -  but the prospect of being in legal trouble in a country where no one speaks english is scaring me to death. 

 

So, consulting with a lawyer, we are looking to remarry in a jurisdiction that legally allows this. New york does, but if I could get her to NY, I would not need to do this to begin with. Just looking for a country that will allow us to marry again, properly disclosing that we are already married - the lawyer says its OK to marry the same person as many times as you want - which is something I know a lot of you disagree with, but multiple lawyers have confirmed. 

 

 

 

 

1.  You still haven't told us what country.  There just might be someone here who has connections in Asia!!  There are a few of us here who have Asian spouses.  

2.  You can not re-marry someone in the eyes of USCIS you have already married.  You can renew your vows, but it doesn't override the 1st marriage date...

3.  If you are divorced, you still have to produce a divorce decree for the marriage from which you are divorced.

Edited January 25, 2019 by missileman