Spouse green card granted but political asylum pending

[PWB 213]

Hope I am wrong but it sounds like someone played the system.  

[Vakcarcel 10]

2 minutes ago, PWB said:

Hope I am wrong but it sounds like someone played the system.  

Yes, you’re beyond wrong

[SalishSea 16,899]

10 minutes ago, Vakcarcel said:

Yes, you’re beyond wrong

I’m sure you can understand why people would think that, though…..

[Vakcarcel 10]

3 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

I’m sure you can understand why people would think that, though…..

I really don’t, please enlighten me 

[arken 4,197]

2 hours ago, Vakcarcel said:

I see what you mean, the only thing that makes me feel safe is that one of the new lawyers who is Colombian too and has the same immigration history as mine went back to Colombia after getting her GC (she did have an interview for her spouse GC and she terminated her political asylum then, her parents were the main applicants for that process too). When she came back to the US nothing happened, now she’s a citizen and her parents case still in process  

 

7 hours ago, Vakcarcel said:

The armed group that was threatening my parent’s lives 6 years ago does not exist anymore, in 2017 the signed a peace agreement with the government. It is safe to go back

Was it the same group that threatened your lawyer family as well? If not is it a coincidence that any groups who were threatening lives earlier don't exist after getting GC.

 

Anyway i hope you are right and your parents don't get denied their asylum by your decision to travel.

 

There is a reason asylum in few cases are taking that long when it's 1 year average.

Edited July 9, 2022 by arken

[SalishSea 16,899]

2 minutes ago, Vakcarcel said:

I really don’t, please enlighten me 

Your parents have an active asylum case based on a threat that ‘no longer exists.’

 

So why do they still need asylum?   Clearly, if you are comfortable traveling there, it’s safe for them as well.

[Mike E 11,727]

3 hours ago, Boiler said:

   

 

I am surprised the lawyer said what they apparently said, they should be protecting your immigration situation not your travel wishes.

 

 

Not week goes by when I see a lawyer (or a first hand account) post something that is stunningly wrong. 
 

I’m no longer surprised. I am numb.  

[Vakcarcel 10]

10 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Your parents have an active asylum case based on a threat that ‘no longer exists.’

 

So why do they still need asylum?   Clearly, if you are comfortable traveling there, it’s safe for them as well.

It really doesn’t quite make sense what you’re saying, so if a country isn’t suitable for a safe life at some point in time automatically it becomes a dangers place forever, so things cannot get better, things cannot change?

 

Also, after a family has been in a country for more than a half decade you’re expecting this family to just start all over again and go back to their country because that certain threat isn’t around anymore?  I wish it was as easy as you think it is 

[EmilyW 1,234]

I mean, you and they could have returned in 2017 after the danger had passed (as you said it had).  That would have only been a year lost versus over five years now.  You and your parents made your choices, but I think you'll find things are a little more complicated, unfortunately, than you had planned / envisaged.

[SalishSea 16,899]

33 minutes ago, Vakcarcel said:

It really doesn’t quite make sense what you’re saying, so if a country isn’t suitable for a safe life at some point in time automatically it becomes a dangers place forever, so things cannot get better, things cannot change?

 

Also, after a family has been in a country for more than a half decade you’re expecting this family to just start all over again and go back to their country because that certain threat isn’t around anymore?  I wish it was as easy as you think it is 

Uh, you asked why people would think your family might be gaming the system.   So I tried to explain it.   I am sorry if it does not make sense to you.   
 

Not going to engage with the other stuff.   I’m out.

[African Zealot 1,453]

10 hours ago, Vakcarcel said:

but my lawyer just told me that it might be risky to go since on the way back to the US immigration can deny entrance if they want to because even if I resigned my political asylum it will stay in my immigration history until I become a citizen.

So your lawyer told you this, and other people are telling you the same thing right here on VJ but you seem to be arguing with them based on what? Based on another lawyer who also claimed asylum like your folks but successfully returned to your home country and returned?
 

You know that you can’t develop a hypothesis based on one data point? To use a different analogy, the fact that a few people shoplifted and were never apprehended doesn’t mean shoplifting is okay and that you will get away with it like others.

 

Basically we’re advising you not to rock the boat and to stay put at least until you’re a citizen. Of course the choice is yours to go against advice, it’s your life. 

Edited July 9, 2022 by African Zealot

[Redro 4,602]

2 hours ago, Vakcarcel said:

It really doesn’t quite make sense what you’re saying, so if a country isn’t suitable for a safe life at some point in time automatically it becomes a dangers place forever, so things cannot get better, things cannot change?

 

Also, after a family has been in a country for more than a half decade you’re expecting this family to just start all over again and go back to their country because that certain threat isn’t around anymore?  I wish it was as easy as you think it is 

That's how the asylum office thinks. 

Your parents are claiming asylum because they are not safe in their home country. 

If they are safe now they can return. The US has no responsibility to help them remain if they have no reason to stay other than "it is difficult to start life over". 

Edited July 9, 2022 by ROK2USA

[Villanelle 4,121]

2 hours ago, Vakcarcel said:

It really doesn’t quite make sense what you’re saying, so if a country isn’t suitable for a safe life at some point in time automatically it becomes a dangers place forever, so things cannot get better, things cannot change?

 

Also, after a family has been in a country for more than a half decade you’re expecting this family to just start all over again and go back to their country because that certain threat isn’t around anymore?  I wish it was as easy as you think it is 

Of course things can improve. Google 'asylum, what if things change/conditions improve etc'

 

You will see it is still possible to claim asylum under humanitarian asylum grounds BUT you still must have 'compelling reasons for being unwilling or unable to return to the country arising out of the severity of the past persecution" or "there is a reasonable possibility that [you] may suffer other serious harm upon removal to that country." (See 8 C.F.R. § 208.13(b)(iii)(A).)'

 

Your 'vacation' shows you are both willing and able to return. What makes it different for your parents? That is the question your parents need to be prepared to answer. 

[Family 3,551]

2 hours ago, African Zealot said:

Basically we’re advising you not to rock the boat and to stay put at least until you’re a citizen. Of course the choice is yours to go against advice, it’s your life. 

The boat that will be rocked is the parents asylum, exactly for the reasons that are not clear to her:

1. Asylum approvals for Columbia are 16% because of “ changed country conditions “, much like she argued “ things got better “

Reality check: https://www.worlddata.info/america/colombia/asylum.php

 

2. OP ( like many before her) will not have trouble traveling on her newly minted LPR card . Sometimes, luck runs out..
 

3. There is always the risk that her own path to N-400 may be delayed..unforeseen circumstances beyond her control ( delayed I-751, delayed security checks , like so many on VJ are experiencing..all of which does mean greater chance the parents asylum interview may be scheduled sooner than she Naturalizes..and God forbid if the marriage does not last)

 

4. Withdrawal of Asylum requires a bit of back and forth with the actual Asylum Office , not the local Field Office  ( and may bring attention to family’s file ) 

 

 

[PWB 213]

I Hope I am wrong but it sounds like someone played the system.