Stable Union can mess up my process?

[JeanneAdil 6,212]

stable union is a document that formalises the union of either a same sex couple or an opposite sex couple. It is a deed registered at any Civil Registry Office in Brazil, and does not alter the individual's marital status – one remains single. It is possible to establish a matrimonial property scheme.Nov 30, 2017

[mdantas 1]

Yeah, maybe it wasn't the best decision, time will tell, and I thank you all for the advice and the considerations. Its good for other people who might see this thread in the future!

 

We've already spent our resources, time and effort with the k1 and we have a plan ahead of us. It is really disincouraging to read the comments here because I know how long it takes, we're already sad that it takes this amount of time for us just to be together, but again, that is not what I asked in the main post.

It's not super simple to just withdrawal the petition and start another one from scratch, it's our situation, our decision and Ive tried to make that clear... But I think it didn't work 😂 

 

In any case thanks for replying to my question but this thread is adding some unecessary stress to an already stressful situation, so I'm out.

 

See you on the next steps! Good luck for all of us starting or in the middle of it 😊

[Crazy Cat 39,340]

Wow........account closed already ....Good luck, @mdantas.  I'm afraid you haven't seen anything yet.  The whole process is stressful and full of agony at times.  We all have to learn how to cope with it.  I hope you return because you WILL have other questions....

Edited April 30, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Redro 4,601]

 

On 4/30/2022 at 3:51 AM, African Zealot said:

Why do I get the feeling we like trying to convince people to choose Cr1 over K1 just a bit too much? 🤷‍♂️

Young couples who care about

1.) SPEED and 2.) MONEY

need to know K1 is currently not faster and it is expensive on the back end. 

 

On 4/30/2022 at 4:17 AM, Ontarkie said:

It bugs me too   but knowing what the differences are is part of making the right choices. CR1 was not a choice for me for many reasons and it may not be a choice for some others. The part of the push that bugs me is when members give out information they tend to not ask certain questions and leave out certain information. So even though they do try to give the best advice they are bias when it come to the CR1 and forget about many other reasons the K1 is better. 

 

Ok I'm done derailing the thread

So many reasons why CR1 isn't a great decision for some:

religious reasons where it is important to live together after marriage

difficulty getting  married in home country/ third country

future step children over 18 years old

anti-vaxx (easier to file medical waiver when in the US)

 

K1 is an easier visa overall... many people get stuck at NVC with RFEs for small things delaying the process by 6-9 months. 

The K1 process might be long these days but the timeline is a little more transparent. 

Edited May 1, 2022 by ROK2USA

[Crazy Cat 39,340]

3 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:

difficulty getting  married in home country/ third country

Utah online marriage solves that issue.  I think children between ages 18-21 is the biggie....

Edited May 1, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Redro 4,601]

11 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Utah online marriage solves that issue.  I think children between ages 18-21 is the biggie....

Hopefully Utah online marriage remains an option in the future. 

 

But, reading some situations... being married in the home country while waiting for the visa impacts benefits/taxes/living situation. So, some beneficiaries prefer to remain single before they move to the US. 

Edited May 1, 2022 by ROK2USA

[Crazy Cat 39,340]

5 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:

being married in the home country while waiting for the visa impacts benefits/taxes/living situation

Yep.  I am going to add that one to my list, too.  Thanks.

[Redro 4,601]

3 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Yep.  I am going to add that one to my list, too.  Thanks.

I still 100% think IR1 is better 😉

But, I do recognize it isn't better or possible for some... 

Edited May 1, 2022 by ROK2USA

[Boiler 43,546]

There are definitely some circumstances where a K1 is the better option, but they are also highly unusual, if you aggregate them together I doubt it would add to 1%.

 

Perhaps the biggest non legit reason is using it as a try out period, see if it works.

[SalishSea 16,806]

10 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Perhaps the biggest non legit reason is using it as a try out period, see if it works.

The show has done much to perpetuate the myth of this being a thing.

 

Funny, they never mention that both parties have signed statements of intent to marry.  AAO decision depository on USCIS.gov is full of dismissed appeals for people who were denied due to not establishing intent!

[Bret L Smith 15]

On 4/29/2022 at 8:25 AM, mdantas said:

We chose the k1 because it was told that the cr1 could take up to two years of processing. Not sure if this is still going on though! 

In any case now we already spent the money  and effort with this application and I'd like to check what we could do considering the situation we're already in. 

 

Thanks for the help anyway!

 

The K1 was quicker pre-Covid, but now in most cases it takes longer than the CR1. 
CR1’s are now being processed a lot faster than pre-Covid.  

[JourneyFromA2 85]

On 4/29/2022 at 10:40 AM, mdantas said:

Hello!

 

I live in Brazil and my fiancee is currently in the US. He just sent the papers to the USCIS and is coming to Brazil so we can spend a few months together. 

I would like to add him to my health plan as a benefitiary so he could use it in his time in Brazil, but to do that I need to be either legally married or in a stable union. 

I won't get married of course, but I was wondering if this stable union thig could mess up our process? I know that US immigration doesn't recognize this kind of process but still, I'm not sure if it's worth a try.

 

Thanks in advance!

K1 might use this as denial.

If it's just insurance, your fiancée can buy international insurance from here that will cover him for Brazil.

 

[FianceeInBrazil 1]

On 4/29/2022 at 9:16 AM, Rocio0010 said:

It's a risky situation, you could potentially be seen as too married for a K1 and be denied at the discretion of the officer. You're not too far ahead into the process in order to marry, file for CR1 and withdraw the K1. That way, you could add him to the insurance and there is no second guessing when it comes to the visa validity. People regret left and right doing the K1

 

On 4/29/2022 at 9:23 AM, mdantas said:

Okay, thank you!

You are far along in the K1 Process.  First thing to check before you consider withdrawing is if you can still get the fee back.  

 

Back when my wife and I were considering solutions, the CR1 was not a good option.  As people have told you the K1 wait times are longer now.  But also is the CR1.  In addition most cartarios in Brazil require a 30 day waiting period for the marriage to take place, which probably means you fiancée making another trip to Brazil after applying for the marriage license.  Only after marriage you can file for the CR1.  You will also incur fees to get the marriage license translated to English.

 

However, a stable union in Brazil is not marriage.  You are not married and it cannot be construed as such.  A stable union is basically you proving you are living together and financially vested together.  That is not marriage.  That being said, I am not sure you qualify that since you obviously do not live together.  If your worry is medical insurance while he is visiting I just would not go there.  I would simply spend the little bit of money to get him insured for the visit if that is your worry.  There is just too much hassle for the stable union if he is only going to be there a few weeks.

 

You have to figure out what is best for your situation.  But you need to look at all sides

[Rocio0010 5,567]

2 minutes ago, FianceeInBrazil said:

However, a stable union in Brazil is not marriage.  You are not married and it cannot be construed as such.  

Neither is an engagement, but believe it or not, people have been denied for showing pictures of an engangement celebration. To the consular officer, it might look like a wedding. They deny people for that (not that I agree or anything, I'm just pointing at the risks)

[FianceeInBrazil 1]

5 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

Neither is an engagement, but believe it or not, people have been denied for showing pictures of an engangement celebration. To the consular officer, it might look like a wedding. They deny people for that (not that I agree or anything, I'm just pointing at the risks)

Part of my other point.  For a few weeks of insurance is it really worth the hassle of trying to prove a stable union to the insurance company.