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Filed: F-1 Visa Country: Georgia
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30 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

What schools have you been attending for the last 5 years?

 

What type of school are you trying to attend in the US?

Not been in any school since high school. Admitted to one of US universities located in Georgia, affiliated with the athletics participating corporations i.e NCAA and NAIA

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Sorry but u say assocated with NAIA and there are 4 colleges in Ga (says Atlanta,  GA on your profile)

and the only one near Atlanta is Life University in  Marietta (a suburb of atlanta ) 

and u say study Business and engineering

 

Life University is a private university focused on training chiropractors and located in Marietta, Georgia. 

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From what you have shared here, it does look like you are more interested in going to the US than going to college. If you had at least gone to college or taken some courses in Kenya over the past 5 years, it would look more like you actually want to be a student. I think the officer believed that you were planning to use the student visa to get into the country and find a way to stay.

 

There is no easy way to resolve this. The only option I see is start school in Kenya and try again in a year or 2.

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12 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

Sorry but u say assocated with NAIA and there are 4 colleges in Ga (says Atlanta,  GA on your profile)

and the only one near Atlanta is Life University in  Marietta (a suburb of atlanta ) 

and u say study Business and engineering

 

Life University is a private university focused on training chiropractors and located in Marietta, Georgia. 

Not sure why you are trying to cast aspersions. People do get student visas for the dodgiest of colleges. No idea where OP has applied. Not that it matters, the  lack of OP doing any studying in his home country (interpreted by the embassy as: not actually interested in studying) is the problem here, not the perceived quality of the college. 
 

 

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F-1 visas are only approved when the officer is convinced of strong ties to your home country.  What evidence or information did you provide to show that you are likely to return home after the completion of your studies in the US?  What questions did the officers ask in your previous interviews?   Focus on that, address any problems if you can, and try again in a few years, if the athletic scholarship is still available to you at that time.  Or seek out educational opportunities in other countries or where you are now a resident.  Good luck!

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You need to be realistic. You are caught up in a vortex of consecutive visa denials. In reality your situation seems to be getting more "unattractive" with each passing year because you have not upgraded your applicant profile (through education or a well paying job for example) while accumulating more negatives with each refusal. If you were the consular officer, you wouldn't give such an applicant a visa.

 

I would be more generous than the person who said your chances of getting a visa are zero however it is as close to zero as possible. I know it may be your dream to come to the USA for school however I am basically saying forget it for a very long time!

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4 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

Not sure why you are trying to cast aspersions. People do get student visas for the dodgiest of colleges. No idea where OP has applied. Not that it matters, the  lack of OP doing any studying in his home country (interpreted by the embassy as: not actually interested in studying) is the problem here, not the perceived quality of the college. 
 

 

not the quality of any college

only 4 NAIA in Georgia

and he says Atlanta and will study business and engineering

the one college in the atlanta region has a BBA in business but no engineering courses and the speciality of the college is chiroprators

 

CO's see a packet before the interview /they knew same as i posted

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21 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

not the quality of any college

only 4 NAIA in Georgia

and he says Atlanta and will study business and engineering

the one college in the atlanta region has a BBA in business but no engineering courses and the speciality of the college is chiroprators

 

CO's see a packet before the interview /they knew same as i posted

I think you’re missing the point entirely but debating with you doesn’t add to the discussion. 

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19 hours ago, Druidd said:

Not been in any school since high school. Admitted to one of US universities located in Georgia, affiliated with the athletics participating corporations i.e NCAA and NAIA

Curious, are you actually a recruited athlete, or just “admitted” and hoping to walk on to a team? 
 

It looks suspicious to a CO that you claim to want to further educate yourself yet have done nothing for the past few years. You could for example have already gotten a masters at home and applied for another in the US (I know a few people who have gone this route), or done shorter courses related to your field of interest, or worked in a related field,  or or or…. 
 

At this point it might be better for you to either pursue studies at home or possibly look at European universities, if you decide not to start working. It doesn’t seem like you’re likely to get a US student visa anytime soon and putting your life on hold waiting for it to happen is not going to benefit you, with visas or anything else.

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1 hour ago, SusieQQQ said:

I think you’re missing the point entirely but debating with you doesn’t add to the discussion. 

Since I'm petty:

JeanneAdil,

There are plenty of NAIA schools in GA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_athletic_programs_in_Georgia_(U.S._state)

 

And the OP stated he wants to study entrepreneurship. NOT engineering:

https://www.scad.edu/academics/minors-and-certificates/business-management-and-entrepreneurship-minor

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On 9/21/2021 at 11:56 PM, Marieke H said:

From what you have shared here, it does look like you are more interested in going to the US than going to college. If you had at least gone to college or taken some courses in Kenya over the past 5 years, it would look more like you actually want to be a student. I think the officer believed that you were planning to use the student visa to get into the country and find a way to stay.

 

There is no easy way to resolve this. The only option I see is start school in Kenya and try again in a year or 2.

Not entirely true. You see, my efforts of getting f1 USA visa began immediately I graduated from high school. From my first denial, I've just been retrying to get another I 20, submitting all information required and correcting the errors I might have made to result in my visa denial. These people should consider such a track of struggles as determination. It isn't just like someone who idled their time for 4 years then began to just apply for a visa. There is a significant difference here. 

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19 minutes ago, Druidd said:

Not entirely true. You see, my efforts of getting f1 USA visa began immediately I graduated from high school. From my first denial, I've just been retrying to get another I 20, submitting all information required and correcting the errors I might have made to result in my visa denial. 

To get an F1 (student) visa you must overcome the assumption that you are trying to immigrate to the US.  They are looking at the ties you have back to Kenya.  You are becoming older each year and you haven't pursued your education in country.  While it is possible to get an Athletic Scholarship from College the chances of obtaining that also decrease each year. If you have had errors in you pervious applications they should have been dealt with immediately and not wait another year or two.

 

If you had the ties, after the first denial(s),  what you should have done was get your Bachelors in Business and then applied for an US MBA program.  Each time you try for a visa the harder it becomes unless there has been a significant change in your circumstances.

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On 9/21/2021 at 1:30 PM, Druidd said:

Not been in any school since high school. Admitted to one of US universities located in Georgia, affiliated with the athletics participating corporations i.e NCAA and NAIA

Perhaps this is the reason the consular officer said you had been out of school too long to qualify.  You're likely too old or have been out of school too long to qualify for any sports under NCAA or NAIA programs.  NCAA Divisions I and Ii schools, for example, only allow a 1 year period between high school graduation and beginning college participation in most sports.  This also means you likely will no longer qualify for an athletic scholarship at most of the schools, making your financial situationion also more precarious.

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