All Things Coronavirus (Part 2)

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The reality is that certainly where I am very rarely need to put one on, meeting up with a friend for a beer later and you need one to get to your table, a bit weird, at least one local restaurant no longer requires it.

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

The reality is that certainly where I am very rarely need to put one on, meeting up with a friend for a beer later and you need one to get to your table, a bit weird, at least one local restaurant no longer requires it.

Because once you sit down at the table you are in a virus safe zone, but while walking to the table, it is a virus gauntlet.  Hopefully you have a good IPA.

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  My best guess would be until herd immunity us achieved, either by vaccination or natural infection.

You mean the unicorn aka herd immunity?

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4 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I had to google that one. I know Gaslighting because a certain poster used it at least twice in every post

You are clearly imagining that

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33 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

You are clearly imagining that

[yuna628 9,546]

So I got my second shot bright and early Thursday morning... and... that entire day I thought maybe all the effects I felt with the first shot was enough to ward anything else away. Boy was I wrong! They had advised me to wait 30 minutes this time based on some itching in my throat, but honestly they don't care at that clinic and are shoving you out the door within 10 minutes because they simply don't have the room. Once again I had a strange sensation in my throat, but for about five minutes I had a rush of sweating too. This quickly went away and I honestly felt fine the entire day. My arm is quite movable and isn't tender like last time. Around 10pm though was when it started. The headache, fatigue, and bone pain all came back. So I just took some tylenol, allergy meds (for the itching at the injection) and went to bed. Friday was a nightmare. The full body pain was gripping, I was zoned out, and even though I didn't have a fever my skin was painful and hot to touch. By mid-day I was sobbing in bed from the pain. My husband carried me into a nice bath and put an ice pack around my neck, where I drifted off again. My dentist always told me to alternate tylenol and ibuprofen for the worst pains so that's what I did and it knocked me out until this morning. I feel... fine? Maybe a little tired still and itchy but the only noticeable lasting effect is swollen lymph nodes.

 

In short Pfizer round two kicked my butt. 10/10 highly recommend. It's a real trip. 

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18 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

 Most likely, it's because they understand that people can spread viruses even if they are immune. 

Agree but at what point, is it on those that refuse to get vaccinated. I should not have to wear a mask for their lack of understanding of science 

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Agree but at what point, is it on those that refuse to get vaccinated. I should not have to wear a mask for their lack of understanding of science 

 

  Well like I said, we will reach a point one way or another where most people have formed immune response to the virus. That will either be by vaccination or by acquiring the infection. At that point it won't be a pandemic, although the longer we let the virus hang around, the more likely it becomes endemic. Either way, masks will probably be optional at that point.

 

  If I had to refine my guess, I'd say probably once kids start getting the vaccine.

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7 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Agree but at what point, is it on those that refuse to get vaccinated. I should not have to wear a mask for their lack of understanding of science 

 

5 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Well like I said, we will reach a point one way or another where most people have formed immune response to the virus. That will either be by vaccination or by acquiring the infection. At that point it won't be a pandemic, although the longer we let the virus hang around, the more likely it becomes endemic. Either way, masks will probably be optional at that point.

 

  If I had to refine my guess, I'd say probably once kids start getting the vaccine.

And since vaccines are available to everyone now, it's on those to either get it or suffer the consequences so that the rest of us can ditch the masks. Fortunately in many areas where I am this is understood and the masks are starting to go away.

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9 minutes ago, Neonred said:

 

And since vaccines are available to everyone now, it's on those to either get it or suffer the consequences so that the rest of us can ditch the masks. Fortunately in many areas where I am this is understood and the masks are starting to go away.

 

  Vaccines are not available to anyone under 16 yet, and it's unlikely we will reach herd immunity until they are. The preceding comments were on CDC guidelines for wearing masks, not which municipalities choose to institute a mask ordinance. Many place have dropped mask requirements, or will drop mask requirements in the near future, but the CDC guidelines are not likely to change until enough people acquire immunity.

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What about the most recent studies that show masks are essentially ineffective in controlling covid?

Edited May 9, 2021 by LIBrty4all

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On 5/6/2021 at 11:08 PM, Neonred said:

Today is exactly 2 months after my second injection.  Time to check out the 95% effectiveness of my Pfizer vaccine.  We have friends from Russia visiting us for three weeks so decided to make the LONG trip from SW FL up to NOLA.  Arrived early this evening and walked 1 1/2 blocks to Bourbon street.  Quite a large crowd especially considering it's a Thursday night.  Masks?  Well, looks like life is returning back to normal as probably less than 5% on Bourbon street are wearing them.  

 

It pains me to say this, but Bourbon street is more active and wild than Duval street in Key West.  Just to be sure, we will be in the Keys next weekend for a true comparison.  

Spent last weekend in the French Quarter.  Mostly the same disgusting human filth that always abounds there, what with people using the bathroom on the streets, the homeless, the trash everywhere.  But it WAS refreshing to see so many people pushing one another aside without wearing masks.  Businesses that had "masks required" signs on the door, but 80% of the patrons weren't wearing any masks.  Even in my hotel, entering and leaving without a mask, no one said a word.  I for one am VERY happy to see this happening.

Different state, different town tonight, celebrating a friend's birthday, and we went into several restaurants, bars, and hotels without masks on, and no one said a word.   Again, a pleasant experience.  Still amusing to watch the (ever smaller) handful of Karens who step into the street to avoid those of us who don't buy into the "social requirement" BS of wearing a mask to make others feel comfy walking along the sidewalks.

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20 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

What about the most recent studies that show masks are essentially ineffective in controlling covid?

Were those studies held in Singapore, Tiawan, Tokyo, Taipei, or at the Four Seasons Landscaping Christmas Party?

 

 

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21 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Well like I said, we will reach a point one way or another where most people have formed immune response to the virus. That will either be by vaccination or by acquiring the infection. At that point it won't be a pandemic, although the longer we let the virus hang around, the more likely it becomes endemic. Either way, masks will probably be optional at that point.

 

  If I had to refine my guess, I'd say probably once kids start getting the vaccine.

Certainly the down side of people not getting vaccinated and then getting sick is that it allows for more mutations and more virus variants that may cause another round of illness that we are not immune to.

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14 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

Spent last weekend in the French Quarter.  Mostly the same disgusting human filth that always abounds there, what with people using the bathroom on the streets, the homeless, the trash everywhere.  But it WAS refreshing to see so many people pushing one another aside without wearing masks.  Businesses that had "masks required" signs on the door, but 80% of the patrons weren't wearing any masks.  Even in my hotel, entering and leaving without a mask, no one said a word.  I for one am VERY happy to see this happening.

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Isn't that the truth.  After the first night avoided Bourbon Street at all cost.  And why is it every kid with a bucket thinks he is a drummer?

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6 hours ago, Neonred said:

Isn't that the truth.  After the first night avoided Bourbon Street at all cost.  And why is it every kid with a bucket thinks he is a drummer?

Oh man, those bucket kids drove me insane.

 

All.

Day.

Long.

 

So where did you go while avoiding BS?