Third party interference caused a denial

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As the world turns.....................

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3 hours ago, Moca_Madness said:

Has anyone ever experienced a third party calling the embassy and lie to the embassy that directly influenced their decisions? 

Another reason to have done a spousal visa - it would go back to USCIS for a NOIR and additional information provided.

[Going through 5,668]

I do wish you luck ---- however prepare yourself for the possibility that you may have to move to live in DR with her, if the CR-1 doesn't pan out.

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We have seen people with tons of evidence - including confessions of fraud - not be able to stop a visa/petition so to have someone especially a third party be successful in stopping one would require a hell of a convincing story with evidence to back it up. 

[JFH 12,189]

I find it hard to believe that an ex-boyfriend on the other side of the world (you say he moved to Spain), could cause a denial. How did he even know she had a K-1 interview and when it was? How did he know that there was already some concern on the part of the embassy that the relationship was not bona fide? How did he know so much about the case? He could only know what she told him so she is obviously still very much in contact with him. I don’t know about this embassy but the London embassy won’t take calls even from visa applicants themselves, let alone spiteful ex-boyfriends. 
 

If the embassies denied every visa where a former lover calls and informs the embassy that the application is bogus, there would be very few visas issued. We see here on a weekly basis posts from former lovers that they want to “report” someone to USCIS, get someone deported, get a visa cancelled, etc. It takes a lot more than hearsay from the previous boyfriend to have a visa application denied. 

[Going through 5,668]

Presumably they remain in regular contact with each other, at the very least due to the child they share.  Possible she went ahead and told the ex-boyfriend/father of her child the when's and where's regarding her K1 at some point.  Why she would do so, we can only presume, if that indeed happened.

 

Often we see here on VJ that there's quite more to the story that a beneficiary might not be sharing with a petitioner when it comes to K1 denials.

Edited January 25, 2020 by Going through

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5 minutes ago, Going through said:

Presumably they remain in regular contact with each other, at the very least due to the child they share.  Possible she went ahead and told the ex-boyfriend/father of her child the when's and where's regarding her K1 at some point. 

 

 

Which I find even more confusing...

 

If they are on amicable speaking terms with one another (which I sincerely hope they are for the sake of the child), it is all the more strange that he would go to such lengths to contact an overseas embassy and do enough to cause her visa to be denied. Especially if he wants the amicable communication with her to continue. It’s not as if he even wants to still pursue a relationship with her, he’s now married to someone else. It seems his actions (if he did indeed contact the embassy) came completely out of the blue and despite previous contact being amicable. 
 

 

 

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Previous posts by OP show a few more realistic reasons for the denial.

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Even if the beneficiary was “leaking” information to her ex and he contacted someone with information (I’m just barely entertaining this thought since it’s been brought up by others) it’s still a very far fetched notion that USCIS denied the case based on this, so quickly without any sort of investigation. And, if they really believed the situation to be so seriously fraudulent that such decisive action was taken, I would think there would be more consequences. 
 

More than likely OP went into this with neither proper understanding of the process, and without really being on the same level as his partner. We’ve got multiple of his own omissions from previous threads that make that pretty obvious. But of course, it can’t be his fault, it’s the dastardly Ex! Seems like he’s already tried to get his fiancé to take the blame in previous threads, and now it’s someone else. Though a few recent posts seem to be shifting partly on her again? Feel bad for her.

Edited January 25, 2020 by MorganandMichael

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41 minutes ago, JFH said:

Which I find even more confusing...

 

If they are on amicable speaking terms with one another (which I sincerely hope they are for the sake of the child), it is all the more strange that he would go to such lengths to contact an overseas embassy and do enough to cause her visa to be denied. Especially if he wants the amicable communication with her to continue. It’s not as if he even wants to still pursue a relationship with her, he’s now married to someone else. It seems his actions (if he did indeed contact the embassy) came completely out of the blue and despite previous contact being amicable. 
 

 

 

OP states they are presently fighting for sole custody of the child so not too certain how amicable it is at this point.

 

That being said, I don't think the denial was due to any actions on the ex's part, either----only because there would have had to be some strong evidence to back up any claims, not as simple as just a phone call/quick letter stating his side of the story.

 

Ex is probably blowing smoke in her ear if he's claiming to his own mother he actually did anything.

Edited January 25, 2020 by Going through

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23 hours ago, kris&me said:

sorry  for your denial but it is pretty hard to believe that a 3rd party could call any embassy

even when we all try to call to ask questions or get answers  , we (USC)  can not get thru

even out emails fall on deaf ears

right?

 

look, my husband's ex wife (both are candian citizens) is now in florida and we have heard through the grapevine she remarried and filed for a direct adjustment. all we care about is she is remarried cause you bet we stopped that alimony payment - shes someone elses problem now LOL  also, knowing her the way we do, we cant imagine she had all the documentation she would have needed to file a successful petition. this is a woman who couldnt even go to the GROCERY STORE (not even kidding) We had pauls stuff due to having filed the k1. those sort of documents are not ones you routinely travel with and are not easy or fast, or maybe even possible to get when out of the country (im thinking specifically of the canadian police report which requires a photo and fingerprints, if i remember correctly). and who would travel with birth certificates, marriage and divorce certs? anyways, i digress (and find her whole situation highly amusing cause she thinks its so easy cause we did it without issue 😂)

 

anyways,  i know everything about her. i had to fill it all out on the k1 and then on the 130 when we changed visa types. even with everything i know about her, i find it HIGHLY unlikely that I would be able to call uscis and get anything at all. i mean, MAYBE i could, but i truly do not care and it makes no difference to me where she lives. and at a certain point they want the case number and info that anyone other than the beneficiary and petitioner would know.

 

even if the ex DID have it, he would have to provide a whole lotta information and PROOF that (i would imagine, if what OP is told is the whole truth and nothing but the truth) does not exist. any documentation would have to be verified/confirmed. as someone else said, we see posts on here all the time about someone wanting to call and mess up a case because they are spiteful and bitter. but really, it takes a whole lot more than a jilted lover to cause any irreparable harm. the biggest issue i could see would be custody. if he has only a little bit, he could stop her from bringing the kid.