Third party interference caused a denial

[Moca_Madness 12]

Has anyone ever experienced a third party calling the embassy and lie to the embassy that directly influenced their decisions? 

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

  Maybe in cases where the real wife got tired of waiting for the  hubby to get a visa with a new person so they could get to immigrate.  

[Boiler 43,595]

I have come across a few situations, not sure if it is very common.

[Moca_Madness 12]

That is so crazy. So now we know why we got denied. Is there any recourse we can take? 

[Unlockable 7,306]

3 minutes ago, Moca_Madness said:

That is so crazy. So now we know why we got denied. Is there any recourse we can take? 

What was said by the 3rd party that led to the denial? And was this third party an ex of the beneficiary?

Edited January 24, 2020 by Unlockable

[Moca_Madness 12]

Yes, yes and yes again. It was her ex who called and told the CO that they still were a couple and living in SD. When they are not a couple and are in court now.

[jan22 2,903]

15 minutes ago, Moca_Madness said:

Yes, yes and yes again. It was her ex who called and told the CO that they still were a couple and living in SD. When they are not a couple and are in court now.

What are they in court for?  

[Moca_Madness 12]

Getting sole custody of their daughter.

[Boiler 43,595]

How does that impact?

[jan22 2,903]

1 minute ago, Moca_Madness said:

Getting sole custody of their daughter.

Any chance that this has anything to do with their divorce proceedings?

 

The Embassy would never take a third-party report as fact. If it appeared at all credible, they would conduct an investigation before taking any action.  How do you know what the Embassy was told and by whom?

[Moca_Madness 12]

So next week s the case.. our lawyer expects a favorable outcome. Then we refile.

[Moca_Madness 12]

So apparently his mom was so disgusted with her sons actions she told my fiancé what happened and what he said

[Boiler 43,595]

What did he say

[Moca_Madness 12]

He said that they were still together. Even though he is remarried and lives in Spain. 

[Unlockable 7,306]

25 minutes ago, Moca_Madness said:

Yes, yes and yes again. It was her ex who called and told the CO that they still were a couple and living in SD. When they are not a couple and are in court now.

 

8 minutes ago, Moca_Madness said:

Getting sole custody of their daughter.

Ok. I am going to just put it out there.... your relationship seems to come with a lot of baggage. Just going by your post history, here is what is going on...

- Your fiance had a previous person (we still don't know if it was a spouse or fiance) who petitioned for her

- The ex foreigner, for some reason, did not go through with the petition and notified their embassy of your fiance being a fraud

- Your fiance is in on-going legal proceedings with her ex for sole custody of their daughter.

- You filed a petition for your fiance, but a few months ago wanted to cancel because you though you were being used by her to get a green card

 

I agree with @jan22, that fraud accusations are not as simple as someone picking up the phone and saying so-and-so is a fraud, and the embassy starts denying visas. Her ex must have had significant evidence of something that led them to believe otherwise. Now, I am not saying what he claim is true, I am just saying whatever he did was sufficient enough for an officer to have doubt. There may be something related to her situation that is a big missing piece to the puzzle for you to understand.