221g white slip/Tunisia K1

[Michelle Allen 3]

Please help I am so confused! My fiance had his interview in Tunisia on June 20th 2019 and received the blue 221g requesting more documents. He went back to the embassy yesterday with the requested documents. 

 

At this time the consoler stated that she did not know our case and asked him to have a seat. She reviewed our case for about 15 minutes and called him back to the window. 

 

She asked about my children, my ex, and my job. She discussed his rights against domestic violence in the US. She then said that they would be sending him an email to let him know when to come and with what documents. He asked the consoler what documents they needed because he had everything with him.

 

She then yelled at him saying that he would receive an email and that he could leave. She handed him the 221g white slip and it is marked on administrative processing. They kept all the paperwork but did not take his passport and she stated that she did not need to see our photos and messages yet.

 

Please any thoughts I am absolutely frieking out and we have been away from one another for 3 years and have lost 2 babies!

Thanks

[payxibka 10,044]

2 minutes ago, Michelle Allen said:

we have been away from one another for 3 years 

 

Possibly a good indicator of why you are not approved 

[JFH 12,189]

Do you meet the requirement of having met in person within the two-year period prior to filing? You mention being apart for three years...

 

Are you older than him? MENA countries have low rates of approvals, especially for the classic “older white single mother and young Muslim man”. There are plenty of case reports on here you can read to get an idea of how rarely they are approved. 

 

Often you will need to get married first and file a CR-1 or how about if you move to Tunisia?

Edited September 18, 2019 by JFH

[JFH 12,189]

1 minute ago, Michelle Allen said:

I thought the 221g white slip is administrative processing! Just because he has not gotten his visa does not mean that I do not go and visit him! 

 

This is a forum that is supposed to be for help and assisting others. It is extremely rude for you to make a statement like that when you know NOTHING about our love or situation! You should be so lucky to find a love that stands by your side for however long it takes to be together!

 

You are probably in a miserable relationship or alone and miserable and this is why you attempt to make others feel the way you do!

Absolutely no need for that. You said you had been apart from one another for 3 years. This poster was merely pointing out that this is a common cause for denial. Part of the task is to present a convincing argument of a bona fide relationship. That’s a tough one when you have not spent time together in 3 years. 

 

Although your visa has not been denied yet, it’s not been approved either. Long-term visitors to this forum know the pattern that MENA cases take. Good luck. You are going through a very difficult embassy and not being together for 3 years is not making it any easier - in fact, that’s making a difficult case even more difficult. 

[Michelle Allen 3]

Hello and yes we meet all the requirements! I thought the 221g is administrative processing and not a denial?

[Michelle Allen 3]

I have visited my fiance numerous times and at long periods of time.

[JFH 12,189]

1 minute ago, Michelle Allen said:

I have visited my fiance numerous times and at long periods of time.

OK, you confused everyone by saying “we have been away from one another for 3 years”. Implies you have not spent a minute together in a 3-year period. If you mean you have been living in separate countries for three years (but with occasional or frequent visits), welcome to the club. Almost all of us go through that. My husband and I had been married over two years before we could live together. It’s hard but it’s survivable. 

 

Yes, you are in administrative processing now. But until it’s approved, it’s not approved. 

[flfreddy 92]

All calm down.    The rules are to proof a bonafide relationship.   If you have visited many times, there shd be photos, air tickets etc.  What was the initial 221g asking for?

 

Were you ever involved in domestic violence issues?

Were there any other criminal incidents that need certified documents?

Was any form not properly filled or had error?

How many times have you filed K1 or married or sponsored I-134?  Income ok?

 

Calm down, see what the Q is then you can address it with more docs.

 

There are certain STOP signs like

Walsh act - crime against minor

Prior misrepresentation

Deportation

J1 2 year ban etc.

 

 

[Michelle Allen 3]

4 minutes ago, JFH said:

OK, you confused everyone by saying “we have been away from one another for 3 years”. Implies you have not spent a minute together in a 3-year period. If you mean you have been living in separate countries for three years (but with occasional or frequent visits), welcome to the club. Almost all of us go through that. My husband and I had been married over two years before we could live together. It’s hard but it’s survivable. 

 

Yes, you are in administrative processing now. But until it’s approved, it’s not approved. 

I understand that it is not approved until it is approved but I do not appreciate people automatically assuming that it is not approved. Also I do appreciate negativity when I am seeking advice and help. 

 

I apologize for being misleading but I thought everyone in this group is in the same situation or has been in the past and would understand. 

[Michelle Allen 3]

6 minutes ago, flfreddy said:

All calm down.    The rules are to proof a bonafide relationship.   If you have visited many times, there shd be photos, air tickets etc.  What was the initial 221g asking for?

 

Were you ever involved in domestic violence issues?

Were there any other criminal incidents that need certified documents?

Was any form not properly filled or had error?

How many times have you filed K1 or married or sponsored I-134?  Income ok?

 

Calm down, see what the Q is then you can address it with more docs.

 

There are certain STOP signs like

Walsh act - crime against minor

Prior misrepresentation

Deportation

J1 2 year ban etc.

 

 

Yes I have all of that evidence but the consoler said she did not need it yet.

 

My ex filed a false civil protection order out on me but it ended in 2015.

I submitted certified copies of my OVI.

All documents were filled out properly. 

This is my first time filing a K1 or Affidavit of Support. 

I have 2 children and make over $52,000 a year.

 

Thank you for your kindness! It is truly appreciated!!!

[Michelle Allen 3]

Just now, Michelle Allen said:

Yes I have all of that evidence but the consoler said she did not need it yet.

 

My ex filed a false civil protection order out on me but it ended in 2015.

I submitted certified copies of my OVI.

All documents were filled out properly. 

This is my first time filing a K1 or Affidavit of Support. 

I have 2 children and make over $52,000 a year.

 

Thank you for your kindness! It is truly appreciated!!!

Oh sorry...the blue 221g requested a divorce decree and an updated birth certificate which my fiance submitted yesterday. 

[flfreddy 92]

19 minutes ago, Michelle Allen said:

Oh sorry...the blue 221g requested a divorce decree and an updated birth certificate which my fiance submitted yesterday. 

Just based on what you posted, the hints of concerns appear to be

a) prior husband and kid

b) income (job)

c) protection order against you

 

Assuming that you have to support 4 people, yourself, fiancee and 2 kids, I hope they dont just take $52K /4 and compute vs poverty level.

The divorce decree and birth cert should have been sent with I-129F or they just want to see the original.

 

Does fiancee have something not favorable? Age gap big? Culture different? Criminal event prior?  

 

Not taking the passport means not ready to issue visa I feel/  Wait for the request.  It could be just a simple doc missing.

 

Keep us posted.

 

 

[SalishSea 16,772]

1 hour ago, Michelle Allen said:

I thought the 221g white slip is administrative processing! Just because he has not gotten his visa does not mean that I do not go and visit him! 

 

This is a forum that is supposed to be for help and assisting others. It is extremely rude for you to make a statement like that when you know NOTHING about our love or situation! You should be so lucky to find a love that stands by your side for however long it takes to be together!

 

You are probably in a miserable relationship or alone and miserable and this is why you attempt to make others feel the way you do!

Yelling at people will not get you much mileage here.  If you want help, it is best to have an open mind about the feedback you receive.

[Michelle Allen 3]

37 minutes ago, flfreddy said:

Just based on what you posted, the hints of concerns appear to be

a) prior husband and kid

b) income (job)

c) protection order against you

 

Assuming that you have to support 4 people, yourself, fiancee and 2 kids, I hope they dont just take $52K /4 and compute vs poverty level.

The divorce decree and birth cert should have been sent with I-129F or they just want to see the original.

 

Does fiancee have something not favorable? Age gap big? Culture different? Criminal event prior?  

 

Not taking the passport means not ready to issue visa I feel/  Wait for the request.  It could be just a simple doc missing.

 

Keep us posted.

 

 

Thank you!

[geowrian 22,335]

8 hours ago, Michelle Allen said:

I understand that it is not approved until it is approved but I do not appreciate people automatically assuming that it is not approved.

But it is technically refused. INA 221(g) is a refusal. It's not a "hard" refusal as it can be overcome by providing necessary documents, or waiting for processing to complete.