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NEW YORK (AP) — Walmart says it will stop selling handgun and short-barrel rifle ammunition, while requesting that customers not openly carry firearms in its stores, even where state laws allow it.

The announcement comes just days after a mass shooting claimed seven lives in Odessa, Texas, and follows back-to-back shootings last month, one of them at a Walmart store.

 

https://fox17.com/news/nation-world/walmart-kroger-join-string-of-retailers-asking-customers-not-to-openly-carry-their-guns

 

   


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4 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

NEW YORK (AP) — Walmart says it will stop selling handgun and short-barrel rifle ammunition, while requesting that customers not openly carry firearms in its stores, even where state laws allow it.

The announcement comes just days after a mass shooting claimed seven lives in Odessa, Texas, and follows back-to-back shootings last month, one of them at a Walmart store.

 

https://fox17.com/news/nation-world/walmart-kroger-join-string-of-retailers-asking-customers-not-to-openly-carry-their-guns

Then it's a good thing that I got my CCW last year. 

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17 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Then it's a good thing that I got my CCW last year. 

 

    Yep. Don't want to mess around with Walmart. Just kidding. It is a voluntary policy at this point, but it is also a statement that they are trying a different approach.

 

    Idiots like this guy are part of the reason for the new policy. For the life of me, I cant understand someone showing up at Walmart in full body armor, loaded weapon and 100 rounds of ammunition just to test their 2nd amendment rights. The guy is lucky he didn't get shot. 

 

   If I was going to carry a firearm, damn straight it would be concealed. If I'm carrying for protection, I just don't really see the reason to walk around advertising that I have a gun. I always thought open carry was more about making a "because I can" statement, than for any practical or tactical purpose.    

  

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I don’t think that the no open carry policy should be the headline here. No handgun or .223/5.56 ammo sales is the real statement Walmart is making. This is exactly what the liberals want and have been hoping for. Law abiding gun owners are being punished for the actions of the few bad apples. They are coming after your guns. 


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Just now, spookyturtle said:

I don’t think that the no open carry policy should be the headline here. No handgun or .223/5.56 ammo sales is the real statement Walmart is making. This is exactly what the liberals want and have been hoping for. Law abiding gun owners are being punished for the actions of the few bad apples. They are coming after your guns. 

 

   I agree mostly, but I think the open carry part is applicable because they do talk about a number of people showing up at Walmart stores carrying openly and causing a push back from other customers. Walmart is all about the bottom line. I doubt they want to lose on ammo sales, but they will if it's going to cost them more to continue.

 

   The one thing open carry does, IMO, is piss off people who otherwise don't care about guns. I am kind of in that group. I used to own guns in my 20's. I don't have any right now. Haven't since I got married. I may again in the future if I feel the need. Gun rights are not front and center to me, but I generally am supportive. Until I see a guy in the grocery store or Walmart making a spectacle for no reason. I don't understand it. 


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5 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   I agree mostly, but I think the open carry part is applicable because they do talk about a number of people showing up at Walmart stores carrying openly and causing a push back from other customers. Walmart is all about the bottom line. I doubt they want to lose on ammo sales, but they will if it's going to cost them more to continue.

 

   The one thing open carry does, IMO, is piss off people who otherwise don't care about guns. I am kind of in that group. I used to own guns in my 20's. I don't have any right now. Haven't since I got married. I may again in the future if I feel the need. Gun rights are not front and center to me, but I generally am supportive. Until I see a guy in the grocery store or Walmart making a spectacle for no reason. I don't understand it. 

I am one of those people that open carry on Wal-Mart with my kids. I have gotten looks before from people that are not used to seeing a buff guy with a pistol pushing a baby

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9 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   I agree mostly, but I think the open carry part is applicable because they do talk about a number of people showing up at Walmart stores carrying openly and causing a push back from other customers. Walmart is all about the bottom line. I doubt they want to lose on ammo sales, but they will if it's going to cost them more to continue.

 

   The one thing open carry does, IMO, is piss off people who otherwise don't care about guns. I am kind of in that group. I used to own guns in my 20's. I don't have any right now. Haven't since I got married. I may again in the future if I feel the need. Gun rights are not front and center to me, but I generally am supportive. Until I see a guy in the grocery store or Walmart making a spectacle for no reason. I don't understand it. 

 

I wonder how many people do open carry at Walmart. I’m not in an open carry state, although there is no law specifically against open carry here in MA. But if you do open carry in public you will likely have your LTC revoked. Here it would draw a lot of attention, but in other areas, it might be common. 

 

Supposedly Walmart accounts for about 20% of all ammo sales in the US. That is a big number. The effects of this announcement are already being felt by online ammunition retailers. Panic buying has started. This will cause a surge in gun and ammo sales, more people will stockpile or add to their stash. Obama was the best gun salesman the industry had ever seen. Watch what happens with all of this talk of bans, restrictions etc. Get em’ While you can. 


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5 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I am one of those people that open carry on Wal-Mart with my kids. I have gotten looks before from people that are not used to seeing a buff guy with a pistol pushing a baby

 

    As passionate as you probably are about gun rights, I think a big misconception about non gun owners is that they want to take away your rights. Well yeah, some do, but many don't. I don't really spend a lot of time thinking about gun rights because I'm not really thinking about guns at all. Guns and gun rights generally don't even enter my mind. Unless something makes me think about it.  Like a bunch of people getting killed. Or when my jackass neighbor decides to fire his pistol in the air to celebrate New Years. Or when I can't get my kids out of school at the end of the day because someone was walking around open carry in the area and everything is on lock down. That's when I think about it. 


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2 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    As passionate as you probably are about gun rights, I think a big misconception about non gun owners is that they want to take away your rights. Well yeah, some do, but many don't. I don't really spend a lot of time thinking about gun rights because I'm not really thinking about guns at all. Guns and gun rights generally don't even enter my mind. Unless something makes me think about it.  Like a bunch of people getting killed. Or when my jackass neighbor decides to fire his pistol in the air to celebrate New Years. Or when I can't get my kids out of school at the end of the day because someone was walking around open carry in the area and everything is on lock down. That's when I think about it. 

I really can't stand when people shoot into the air because it can kill someone when the bullet comes down. I actually had a bullet come down and hit the roof of my Tahoe during the NYE celebratory gun fire by someone. I didn't realize it until it rained really hard a week later and water started seeping inside of the cabin. I had to do a fast deal and then take it to a repair shop later. 

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13 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

 

I wonder how many people do open carry at Walmart. I’m not in an open carry state, although there is no law specifically against open carry here in MA. But if you do open carry in public you will likely have your LTC revoked. Here it would draw a lot of attention, but in other areas, it might be common. 

 

Supposedly Walmart accounts for about 20% of all ammo sales in the US. That is a big number. The effects of this announcement are already being felt by online ammunition retailers. Panic buying has started. This will cause a surge in gun and ammo sales, more people will stockpile or add to their stash. Obama was the best gun salesman the industry had ever seen. Watch what happens with all of this talk of bans, restrictions etc. Get em’ While you can. 

 

   I think it there is push back in both directions. Open carry doesn't bother me, but seeing guy open carry wearing body armor and carrying a bandolier does. There was no rational point in doing that.  If anything, it's causing a back lash. I always think it's a bad idea (in any area), when you start pushing people who have no skin in the game over to the other side. 

 

   Walmart, on the other hand, probably would like to keep that share of the market. So it is kind of a big deal to see them take this position.

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I just don't understand why it's necessary to bring a gun to a supermarket. It has never once crossed my mind. We did not have guns in my house -- my mom is a doctor and saw too much opportunity for something really tragic to happen accidentally, given some of the patients she's had to treat when she was an ER doctor. At one of the firms my dad worked at, one of the attorneys kept a gun in a drawer just in case a client went crazy. But it is not something that I find I would ever want to own, and I do not like being around people who are carrying weapons, unless they are police/similar. 

 

I admit lying to my ex that permanent residents couldn't own a gun when he said he wanted to buy one. I don't know if he ever figured out I was lying about that! 

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I am very pro 2nd amedmant but with comprehensive back ground checks on all transactions, as long as there is a quick appeals process. 

 

As for open carry. To be honest i think it makes no tactical sense what so ever. It makes people uneasy and only serves to hurt the cause. It just draws attention to the person carrying, is more likely than not to cause an incident. 

Its not that I am legally against it, i just think its a poor tactical choice.

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1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I am one of those people that open carry on Wal-Mart with my kids. I have gotten looks before from people that are not used to seeing a buff guy with a pistol pushing a baby

As a gun guy myself, and someone who agrees with a lot you say here, I gotta ask...  WHY?  What is your reason behind open carry, aside from "because I can!"?

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7 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    As passionate as you probably are about gun rights, I think a big misconception about non gun owners is that they want to take away your rights. Well yeah, some do, but many don't. I don't really spend a lot of time thinking about gun rights because I'm not really thinking about guns at all. Guns and gun rights generally don't even enter my mind. Unless something makes me think about it.  Like a bunch of people getting killed. Or when my jackass neighbor decides to fire his pistol in the air to celebrate New Years. Or when I can't get my kids out of school at the end of the day because someone was walking around open carry in the area and everything is on lock down. That's when I think about it. 

The "some" that do tend to be the loudest.  I do agree with your thoughts on the reckless discharge of a firearm in the air, that is just as senseless as those that set off fireworks indiscriminately.


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8 hours ago, spookyturtle said:

Supposedly Walmart accounts for about 20% of all ammo sales in the US. That is a big number. The effects of this announcement are already being felt by online ammunition retailers. Panic buying has started. This will cause a surge in gun and ammo sales, more people will stockpile or add to their stash. 

I don't see this starting panic buying, just more mom and pop shops will pop up.  Right now I can buy all the ammo I want online and just have it shipped to my house. 

 

Maybe a slight uptick in ammo sales for a brief period. but you can go to any Bass Pro Shop, Academy, Cabella or online gun broker and buy all the weapons you want, and the prices are pretty cheap and been that way the last few years.

 

 

 

 


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