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50 minutes ago, mtempelaar said:

I'm currently experiencing a 60+% rejection rate for renewal of H1Bs for my team members, and many contracting companies didn't know how to get past new USCIS guidelines for a while (more detailed justifications, extra paperwork/RFEs), but this would be good to understand from the OP in case it's something odd that needs to be resolved.

I worked for a major tech company. It was great. H1b was rejected because USCIS thought that my education did not match my job duties. Which is kinda stupid because I had got 3 H1b visa petitions approved in last 10 years and also had an approved I- 140 (GC petition by US employer). Obviously, this new H1b petition was under new president's administration and they have made it extremely difficult for people to qualify for H1b now. Going by the logic that USCIS gave me, Sundar Pichai, CEO of Google would have never got H1b visa approved. He did not have Computer Science degree and still worked as software product manager in the begining at Google. 

 

Anyways, I am working on developing an online business right now and want to focus on my marriage. Glad I am out of H1b visa BS which is so frustrating. 

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1 minute ago, edman007 said:

I worked for a major tech company. It was great. H1b was rejected because USCIS thought that my education did not match my job duties. Which is kinda stupid because I had got 3 H1b visa petitions approved in last 10 years and also had an approved I- 140 (GC petition by US employer). Obviously, this new H1b petition was under new president's administration and they have made it extremely difficult for people to qualify for H1b now. Going by the logic that USCIS gave me, Sundar Pichai, CEO of Google who started off as a software product manager would have never got H1b approved. 

 

Anyways, I am working on developing an online business right now and want to focus on my marriage. Glad I am out of H1b visa BS which is so frustrating. 

Make sure you don’t work in your “online business” during your visit with your wife. B-2 visas are for touristic visits only. No work whatsoever. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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1 minute ago, edman007 said:

Obviously, this new H1b petition was under new president's administration and they have made it extremely difficult for people to qualify for H1b now.

It won't be President's Trump's fault if your B2 visa is denied (I guess everything is Trump's fault)........Your strong ties to the US will be the issue.

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Just now, JFH said:

Make sure you don’t work in your “online business” during your visit with your wife. B-2 visas are for touristic visits only. No work whatsoever. 

Yes. Good point. Thank you!

Just now, missileman said:

It won't be President's Trump's fault if your B2 visa is denied (I guess everything is Trump's fault)........Your strong ties to the US will be the issue.

I agree. It will not be his fault :)

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2 minutes ago, missileman said:

It won't be President's Trump's fault if your B2 visa is denied (I guess everything is Trump's fault)........Your strong ties to the US will be the issue.

He wasn't talking about the denial of the B2 as Trump's fault.  He was talking about Trump changing the rules for H1-B.  Totally different matters.

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19 minutes ago, edman007 said:

I worked for a major tech company. It was great. H1b was rejected because USCIS thought that my education did not match my job duties. Which is kinda stupid because I had got 3 H1b visa petitions approved in last 10 years and also had an approved I- 140 (GC petition by US employer). Obviously, this new H1b petition was under new president's administration and they have made it extremely difficult for people to qualify for H1b now. Going by the logic that USCIS gave me, Sundar Pichai, CEO of Google would have never got H1b visa approved. He did not have Computer Science degree and still worked as software product manager in the begining at Google. 

 

Anyways, I am working on developing an online business right now and want to focus on my marriage. Glad I am out of H1b visa BS which is so frustrating. 

It's not just one case of H1Bs being made extremely difficult. The H1B denials have to do with fraud. Plenty of genuine applicants get H1Bs approved. But there are just as many Indian nationals and desi (Indian) consultancies involved in shady practices, and USCIS is more eagle-eyed about specialty occupation, etc. 

 

Google, or any other CEO's case has nothing to do with your case. Based on my experience with H1Bs cases around my workplace, Mr Pichai did not work in an environment with as significant H1b fraud as there is now. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

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Just now, WeGuyGal said:

It's not just one case of H1Bs being made extremely difficult. The H1B denials have to do with fraud. Plenty of genuine applicants get H1Bs approved. But there are just as many Indian nationals and desi (Indian) consultancies involved in shady practices, and USCIS is more eagle-eyed about specialty occupation, etc. 

 

Google, or any other CEO's case has nothing to do with your case. Based on my experience with H1Bs cases around my workplace, Mr Pichai did not work in an environment with as significant H1b fraud as there is now. 

Completely irrelevant to the OP's problem and just a derailment of this thread.  

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My guess is that the CO will assume you will stay and adjust status, thereby "jumping the queue" and saving a year.  

 

Wife, car, home......why would you return to India?

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My husband applied for a US tourist visa when we were technically only just engaged and not even married yet. I was living in his country at the time and we had planned just for a trip to visit my parents in the US. At that time, we had zero plans to move to the US. He was denied a B2, (probably) because of his relationship with me, a USC.

 

So, basically, when you tell the CO that your wife lives in the US and is a USC, there is a huge chance of refusal. But if you've got the extra cash to spare and want to find out, just apply and see what happens. Just be realistic about your chances and prepare to go the CR-1 spousal visa route.

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🇷🇺 CR-1 via DCF (Dec 2016-Jun 2017) & I-751 ROC (Apr 2019-Oct 2019)🌹

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Info about my DCF Moscow* experience here and here

26-Jul-2016: Married abroad in Russia 👩‍❤️‍👨 See guide here
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED as of February 28th, 2019.

 

Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

 28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

*I don't understand this status because we DID have an interview!

 

🇺🇸 N-400 Application for Naturalization (Apr 2020-Jun 2021) 🛂

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Filed during Covid-19 & moved states 1 month after filing

30-Mar-2020: N-400 early filing window opens!

01-Apr-2020: Filed N-400 online 💻 

02-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received online 📃

07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

05-May-2020: Moved to another state, filed AR-11 online

05-May-2020: Application transferred to another USCIS field office for review ➡️

15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

16-Jul-2020: Filed non-receipt inquiry due to never getting confirmation that case was transferred to new field office

15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

10-Feb-2021: Contacted senator's office for help with USCIS

12-Feb-2021: Received canned response from senator's office that case is within processing time 😡

16-Feb-2021: Contacted other senator's office for help with USCIS - still no biometrics

19-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice - canned response from other senator's office 🌐

23-Feb-2021: Interview scheduled - notice to come in the mail

25-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice arrives via mail

01-Mar-2021: Interview notice letter arrives via mail  ✉️ 

29-Mar-2021: Passed interview at local office! Oath Ceremony to be scheduled

13-Apr-2021: Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

04-May-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 Unable to attend due to illness

04-May-2021: Mailed request to reschedule Oath to local office

05-May-2021: "You did not attend your Oath Ceremony" - notice to come in the mail

06-May-2021: Oath Ceremony will be scheduled, date TBA

12-May-2021: Oath Ceremony re-scheduled for June 3rd, then de-scheduled same day 😡 

25-May-2021: New Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

16-Jun-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 - DONE!!

17-Jun-2021: Certificate of Naturalization issued

 

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49 minutes ago, millefleur said:

if you tell the CO that your wife lives in the US and is a USC, 

There’s no “if”, the DS160 asks questions both about spouse and about who the contact person in the US is...

 

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1 minute ago, SusieQQQ said:

There’s no “if”, the DS160 asks questions both about spouse and about who the contact person in the US is...

Right, sorry poor choice of words. Meant to say "when".

🇷🇺 CR-1 via DCF (Dec 2016-Jun 2017) & I-751 ROC (Apr 2019-Oct 2019)🌹

Spoiler

Info about my DCF Moscow* experience here and here

26-Jul-2016: Married abroad in Russia 👩‍❤️‍👨 See guide here
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED as of February 28th, 2019.

 

Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

 28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

*I don't understand this status because we DID have an interview!

 

🇺🇸 N-400 Application for Naturalization (Apr 2020-Jun 2021) 🛂

Spoiler

Filed during Covid-19 & moved states 1 month after filing

30-Mar-2020: N-400 early filing window opens!

01-Apr-2020: Filed N-400 online 💻 

02-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received online 📃

07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

05-May-2020: Moved to another state, filed AR-11 online

05-May-2020: Application transferred to another USCIS field office for review ➡️

15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

16-Jul-2020: Filed non-receipt inquiry due to never getting confirmation that case was transferred to new field office

15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

10-Feb-2021: Contacted senator's office for help with USCIS

12-Feb-2021: Received canned response from senator's office that case is within processing time 😡

16-Feb-2021: Contacted other senator's office for help with USCIS - still no biometrics

19-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice - canned response from other senator's office 🌐

23-Feb-2021: Interview scheduled - notice to come in the mail

25-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice arrives via mail

01-Mar-2021: Interview notice letter arrives via mail  ✉️ 

29-Mar-2021: Passed interview at local office! Oath Ceremony to be scheduled

13-Apr-2021: Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

04-May-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 Unable to attend due to illness

04-May-2021: Mailed request to reschedule Oath to local office

05-May-2021: "You did not attend your Oath Ceremony" - notice to come in the mail

06-May-2021: Oath Ceremony will be scheduled, date TBA

12-May-2021: Oath Ceremony re-scheduled for June 3rd, then de-scheduled same day 😡 

25-May-2021: New Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

16-Jun-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 - DONE!!

17-Jun-2021: Certificate of Naturalization issued

 

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Since you're already married as of last month, suggest initiating the CR-1 asap. What's the USC spouse waiting for? 

 

You could try the b2 route as well, but having already stated going the spousal visa route through Consular Processing, no point waiting. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

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7 minutes ago, WeGuyGal said:

Since you're already married as of last month, suggest initiating the CR-1 asap. What's the USC spouse waiting for? 

 

You could try the b2 route as well, but having already stated going the spousal visa route through Consular Processing, no point waiting. 

I agree. If you've already made up your mind to eventually file for the CR-1, why wait and bother with a tourist visa?

🇷🇺 CR-1 via DCF (Dec 2016-Jun 2017) & I-751 ROC (Apr 2019-Oct 2019)🌹

Spoiler

Info about my DCF Moscow* experience here and here

26-Jul-2016: Married abroad in Russia 👩‍❤️‍👨 See guide here
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED as of February 28th, 2019.

 

Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

 28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

*I don't understand this status because we DID have an interview!

 

🇺🇸 N-400 Application for Naturalization (Apr 2020-Jun 2021) 🛂

Spoiler

Filed during Covid-19 & moved states 1 month after filing

30-Mar-2020: N-400 early filing window opens!

01-Apr-2020: Filed N-400 online 💻 

02-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received online 📃

07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

05-May-2020: Moved to another state, filed AR-11 online

05-May-2020: Application transferred to another USCIS field office for review ➡️

15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

16-Jul-2020: Filed non-receipt inquiry due to never getting confirmation that case was transferred to new field office

15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

10-Feb-2021: Contacted senator's office for help with USCIS

12-Feb-2021: Received canned response from senator's office that case is within processing time 😡

16-Feb-2021: Contacted other senator's office for help with USCIS - still no biometrics

19-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice - canned response from other senator's office 🌐

23-Feb-2021: Interview scheduled - notice to come in the mail

25-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice arrives via mail

01-Mar-2021: Interview notice letter arrives via mail  ✉️ 

29-Mar-2021: Passed interview at local office! Oath Ceremony to be scheduled

13-Apr-2021: Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

04-May-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 Unable to attend due to illness

04-May-2021: Mailed request to reschedule Oath to local office

05-May-2021: "You did not attend your Oath Ceremony" - notice to come in the mail

06-May-2021: Oath Ceremony will be scheduled, date TBA

12-May-2021: Oath Ceremony re-scheduled for June 3rd, then de-scheduled same day 😡 

25-May-2021: New Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

16-Jun-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 - DONE!!

17-Jun-2021: Certificate of Naturalization issued

 

🎆 Members new and old: don't forget to fill in your VJ timeline! 🎇 https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/

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11 hours ago, millefleur said:

I agree. If you've already made up your mind to eventually file for the CR-1, why wait and bother with a tourist visa?

Agree! Especially as the processing time doesn’t seem to be getting any shorter. Get the USC to file the petition now and you might have your visa in hand by spring 2020.

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Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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  • 3 months later...

Guys, happy to report that I got the tourist visa. I now plan on flying to US and stay there for few months.  

 

However,  I got question around when to return to India from US based on the NOA2 approval timeline. It appears I will get my NOA2 approval in October. So, does that mean I should be back in India around October November to work on the subsequent CR1 requirements? I believe I will be required in India for medical appointment,  police verification and interview art US consulate only.  So, with NOA 2 approval being in October, when should I expect to be in India to work on above mentioned requirements?

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