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Hi all, ny husband and I have an i-130 in process currently. Because I'm super nervous about approval for several reasons being 1. We are using a co-sponsor because I am on SSD, 2. We've only had 3 in person visits because I'm a single mom and he was denied a visitor visa so money and travel time with a child make things difficult,  and 3. I am 13 years older than him. I'm wondering if he should submit an entry for the diversity lottery as a back up plan in case we are denied or sent to admin processing. Thanks in advance!

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No downside in doing so.


“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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7 minutes ago, Musicsaves said:

Hi all, ny husband and I have an i-130 in process currently. Because I'm super nervous about approval for several reasons being 1. We are using a co-sponsor because I am on SSD, 2. We've only had 3 in person visits because I'm a single mom and he was denied a visitor visa so money and travel time with a child make things difficult,  and 3. I am 13 years older than him. I'm wondering if he should submit an entry for the diversity lottery as a back up plan in case we are denied or sent to admin processing. Thanks in advance!

I would not submit a diversity lottery application at all. 

 

You have several things going in your favor: 1. You had 3 in person visits with each other 2. You are only 13 years older which. 

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No harm in trying.


Timelines:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/17/18: Approved

10/24/18: Green card produced

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I would not submit a diversity lottery application at all. 

 

You have several things going in your favor: 1. You had 3 in person visits with each other 2. You are only 13 years older which. 

I think your reply cut off?

Is there a reason you advise against it? Thank you!

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Not sure how you can consider it "backup plan" when the chances of winning the DV lottery are, in fact, pretty small.

 

In this case, I'd actually call your I-130 "backup plan" lol.


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06.02.2014 - NoA2

01.04.2014 - Interview. 

AoS

03.2015 - AoS started.

09.2015 - Green Card received.  

RoC

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11 minutes ago, Roel said:

Not sure how you can consider it "backup plan" when the chances of winning the DV lottery are, in fact, pretty small.

 

In this case, I'd actually call your I-130 "backup plan" lol.

I work in IT....if my backups had a < 1% chance of success, I'd be in some deep trouble. :P


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/17/18: Approved

10/24/18: Green card produced

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Musicsaves said:

I didn't realize it was such a low chance. I thought it might be a certain amount from each country and veing that he's not from a high immigration country I thought he might have a chance...

The chances vary based on region due to allocations and # of applicants. But typically it's a couple percentage points chance at most. I think itr's either New Zealand or Australia with the highest chance at around 6.x% or so?


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/17/18: Approved

10/24/18: Green card produced

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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1 hour ago, Musicsaves said:

I didn't realize it was such a low chance. I thought it might be a certain amount from each country and veing that he's not from a high immigration country I thought he might have a chance...

There is a quota but it’s a maximum (max 7% of the total visas may go to one country), no minimum.  For last DV there were almost 14.5m entrants, rising to 22.5m if you include derivatives, and they select around 100000 and give visas to 50000 people (including derivatives). So you can see chances are minuscule just to be selected, and not everyone selected gets as far as actually getting a visa. Obviously, somebody has to win (I did), and you can’t win it if you don’t enter, but it’s definitely not something to expect to happen. FYI last year there were 430 people selected from Romania (including derivatives, so very rough rule of thumb is actual number of winning entries being about half of that).

(Btw none of the countries in DV are high immigration countries, that’s the criteria for countries being in there in the first place, so he doesn’t have any advantage over other entrants from that perspective)

Edited by SusieQQQ

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12 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

There is a quota but it’s a maximum (max 7% of the total visas may go to one country), no minimum.  For last DV there were almost 14.5m entrants, rising to 22.5m if you include derivatives, and they select around 100000 and give visas to 50000 people (including derivatives). So you can see chances are minuscule just to be selected, and not everyone selected gets as far as actually getting a visa. Obviously, somebody has to win (I did), and you can’t win it if you don’t enter, but it’s definitely not something to expect to happen. FYI last year there were 430 people selected from Romania (including derivatives, so very rough rule of thumb is actual number of winning entries being about half of that).

(Btw none of the countries in DV are high immigration countries, that’s the criteria for countries being in there in the first place, so he doesn’t have any advantage over other entrants from that perspective)

Thank you so much for this detailed response SusieQQQ!!!! 💗😘

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You can check the statistics here, https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/diversity-visa-program-entry/diversity-visa-program-statistics.html . In 2018 there were 79,583 entrants from Romania and 516 were selected. This comes out to about a 0.65% (or 1 per 154) chance of winning.

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06/24/2017: Mailed I-130

06/27/2017: NOA1 (technically a RFE as we were missing beneficiary ID)

07/06/2017: NOA2

07/12/2017: Case assigned by Juarez embassy

07/17/2017: Packet 3 received

08/15/2017: Interview/Approval!

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09/03/2017: POE

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