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So Visa Journey...we meet again. This time for something totally not expected. 

 

I apologize in advance for the incredibly long story I am about to unfold on everyone (or at least those interested enough to keep reading)

 

I am USC, I was living abroad a few years ago and got married. Went through the whole CR-1 process and moved back to the US about a year and a half ago with my then-spouse. 6 months into moving here I began noticing my spouse acting incredibly strange and was often catching the person in lies. Turns out they had a drug problem that pre-dated our marriage but I never knew and/or noticed it before because, while living in their home country, I was constantly lied to and never really able to pick up on the signs. Naive stupid me. Long story short, they moved out, I waited to file for divorce because I wanted to see if we could work things out, but of course things just kept getting worse so finally I filed for divorce, which will be final next month. 

 

A few months after they moved out I reconnected with someone that I had dated back in highschool and we immediately fell in love again.  This person is in the US illegally. (hate that term) We have been dating for almost a year now.

 

Now to my questions:

 

We want to get married, I obviously can't legally get married again until my divorce is final next month, but given that we will at one point go through the whole immigration process I would like to know what our best options are. My worries are that if we get married too soon, USCIS will think it is a fraudulent marriage. What does everyone else think? 

 

Also, what is the process in this situation... I-130, I485 and I-601a? (Came to the US once over 10 years ago and has not left since)

 

I am feeling somewhat overwhelmed....Sorry if I did not include enough information, but any and all comments and suggestions are welcomed!

 

 

*EDIT* I clearly forgot to include critical information, sorry! :( They did not enter the US legally. 

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The big question is:  Was this person who is now here illegally ever inspected when entering the US?

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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4 minutes ago, KyK said:

So Visa Journey...we meet again. This time for something totally not expected. 

 

I apologize in advance for the incredibly long story I am about to unfold on everyone (or at least those interested enough to keep reading)

 

I am USC, I was living abroad a few years ago and got married. Went through the whole CR-1 process and moved back to the US about a year and a half ago with my then-spouse. 6 months into moving here I began noticing my spouse acting incredibly strange and was often catching the person in lies. Turns out they had a drug problem that pre-dated our marriage but I never knew and/or noticed it before because, while living in their home country, I was constantly lied to and never really able to pick up on the signs. Naive stupid me. Long story short, they moved out, I waited to file for divorce because I wanted to see if we could work things out, but of course things just kept getting worse so finally I filed for divorce, which will be final next month. 

 

A few months after they moved out I reconnected with someone that I had dated back in highschool and we immediately fell in love again.  This person is in the US illegally. (hate that term) We have been dating for almost a year now.

 

Now to my questions:

 

We want to get married, I obviously can't legally get married again until my divorce is final next month, but given that we will at one point go through the whole immigration process I would like to know what our best options are. My worries are that if we get married too soon, USCIS will think it is a fraudulent marriage. What does everyone else think? 

 

Also, what is the process in this situation... I-130, I485 and I-601a? (Came to the US once over 10 years ago and has not left since)

 

I am feeling somewhat overwhelmed....Sorry if I did not include enough information, but any and all comments and suggestions are welcomed!

 

So they came here as a tourist and just never left? If that is the case then just go ahead and file for AOS for them after marriage. If them here without inspection then the that is when the real fun starts.

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1 minute ago, cyberfx1024 said:

So they came here as a tourist and just never left? If that is the case then just go ahead and file for AOS for them after marriage. If them here without inspection then the that is when the real fun starts.

No.  The person was never inspected...

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 minute ago, KyK said:

They were not. They entered the US illegally. 

 

So sorry I didn't mention it, thanks for the question. 

For me, this would the time to lawyer up. Some of these cases have been very tricky...

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 minute ago, missileman said:

No.  The person was never inspected...

Damn that sucks. Now they have to file for the waiver and actually pay for a lawyer.

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12 minutes ago, KyK said:

So Visa Journey...we meet again. This time for something totally not expected. 

 

I apologize in advance for the incredibly long story I am about to unfold on everyone (or at least those interested enough to keep reading)

 

I am USC, I was living abroad a few years ago and got married. Went through the whole CR-1 process and moved back to the US about a year and a half ago with my then-spouse. 6 months into moving here I began noticing my spouse acting incredibly strange and was often catching the person in lies. Turns out they had a drug problem that pre-dated our marriage but I never knew and/or noticed it before because, while living in their home country, I was constantly lied to and never really able to pick up on the signs. Naive stupid me. Long story short, they moved out, I waited to file for divorce because I wanted to see if we could work things out, but of course things just kept getting worse so finally I filed for divorce, which will be final next month. 

 

A few months after they moved out I reconnected with someone that I had dated back in highschool and we immediately fell in love again.  This person is in the US illegally. (hate that term) We have been dating for almost a year now.

 

Now to my questions:

 

We want to get married, I obviously can't legally get married again until my divorce is final next month, but given that we will at one point go through the whole immigration process I would like to know what our best options are. My worries are that if we get married too soon, USCIS will think it is a fraudulent marriage. What does everyone else think? 

 

Also, what is the process in this situation... I-130, I485 and I-601a? (Came to the US once over 10 years ago and has not left since)

 

I am feeling somewhat overwhelmed....Sorry if I did not include enough information, but any and all comments and suggestions are welcomed!

 

Why do you refer to you wife as "they"??

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My wife's journey:

 

============================================= USCIS ==============================================

12/15/2017 (Friday) I-130 & I-130A were sent to USCIS Phoenix Lockbox by FedEx (overnight)

12/16/2017 (Saturday) I-130 & I-130A were delivered to USCIS Phoenix Lockbox (signed by J. Lopez)

12/18/2017 (Monday) PRIORITY DATE

12/20/2017 (Wednesday) Received text and email that my case has been accepted and routed to the USCIS Texas Service Center for processing

12/21/2017 (Thursday) Check was cashed. NOA-1 (I-797C) was sent to me by USCIS via USPS.

12/26/2017 (Tuesday) NOA-1 (I-797C) was received.

06/07/2018 (Thursday) NOA-2 was APPROVED. 172 days.

06/11/2018 (Monday) NOA-2 was delivered by USPS to my home address.

06/22/2018 (Friday) Our case was sent to the U.S. Department of State (DOS) for visa processing (NVC)

============================================= NVC ==============================================

07/27/2018 (Friday) NVC welcome letter with Case number and Invoice ID number was received by email. (51 days from NOA 2 and 225 days total)

07/27/2018-07/31/2018 NVC website was down

07/31/2018 Fees paid.

08/08/2018 ALL forms and documents were submitted (uploaded) to NVC website.

08/14/2018 CASE COMPLETED (DOCUMENTARILY QUALIFIED)

09/19/2018 Got email with VISA INTERVIEW DATE

 

My journey:

 

 

02/01/2016 N-400 Filing Date (Sent package via UPS).

 
02/04/2016 N-400 package was delivered (signed by Adriana) to Phoenix, AZ (USCIS Lockbox). PRIORITY DATE
 
02/18/2016 Fee waiver was approved. NOTICE DATE
 
02/19/2016 Received text and email from USCIS (NOA).
 
02/22/2016 I-797C (NOA) letter was sent to me by USCIS via USPS.
 
02/25/2016 I-797C (NOA) received by regular mail (USPS).
 
02/27/2016 NOTICE DATE for Fingerprints (Biometrics) appointment.
 
03/02/2016 Fingerprints (Biometrics) appointment letter was sent to me by USCIS via USPS.
 
03/05/2016 Fingerprints (Biometrics) appointment letter was delivered to me.
 
03/07/2016 Fingerprints (Biometrics) (early walk-in).
 
03/10/2016 In Line (email from USCIS/DHS).
 
05/04/2016 "Interview was scheduled" email (email from USCIS/DHS).
 
05/05/2016 Interview letter was sent to me by USCIS via USPS. NOTICE DATE.
 
05/10/2016 Interview letter was delivered to me.
 
06/08/2016 Interview.
 
06/08/2016 N-445 Notice of Naturalization Oath Ceremony (hand given right after the Interview).
 
06/16/2016 Oath Ceremony.
 
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since they entered illegally, that means they have no pathway to adjust status. they will need to exit the USA and wait out their bar first (10 years i think in this case). once that is over, only then can you petition them and apply for a waiver for their inadmissibility. this will be difficult and complicated, you will definitely need a lawyer like what others above said.

5 minutes ago, Iwo_Jima said:

Why do you refer to you wife as "they"??

if you don't want to specify gender, like what OP is trying to do in his/her post, instead of writing "he/she", one can use "they". :)

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Passport 17-Feb-22 Drop-off at USPS (expedited processing and shipping) ~ 22-Feb-22 Status: In Process ~ 08-Mar-22 Passport book shipped ~ 09-Mar-22 Status: Approved. Passport book in hand.

N-400     28-Jun-21 Filed online ~ 28-Jun-21 Received NOA + "Biometrics will be re-used" notice ~ 14-Dec-21 Interview scheduled ~ 25-Jan-22 Interview. Approved. Case status: Oath will be scheduled.  ~ 01-Feb-22 Oath scheduled. ~ 14-Feb-22 Oath ceremony.   

ROC        11-Jun-20 Application sent via FedEx ~ 16-Jun-20 Case received ~ 29-Jun-20 (Old) biometrics applied to case ~ 01-Jul-20 NOA ~ 23-Dec-21 Case transferred to new office ~ 25-Jan-22 Combo interview with N400. Case approved. 

AOS        13-Oct -17 Application sent via FedEx ~ 17-Oct-17 Case received ~ 24-Oct-17 Fingerprint fee received ~ 25-Oct-17 NOA1 ~ 17-Nov-17 Biometrics ~ 23-Nov-17 Status "We are scheduling
                 your 
interview" ~ 24-Jul-18 Status "We have scheduled your interview" ~ 28-Jul-18 Interview notice received in the mail  ~ 29-Aug-18 Interview 30-Aug-18 Status "Case was approved" 
                 
04-Sep-18 Received approval / welcome letter in the mail ~04-Sep-18 Status: "Card was mailed to me" ~07-Sep-18 Green card received

EAD/AP  13-Oct Application sent via FedEx ~ 17-Oct Case received ~ 25-Oct NOA1 ~ 17-Nov Biometrics ~ 09-Jan Approved ~ 13-Jan Notice received ~ 18-Jan Combo card received

K1 Visa   28-Jun-17 Case ready (No packet 3 received) ~ 22-Jul Medical ~ 02-Aug Interview (APPROVED!) ~ 03-Aug Visa issued ~ 08-Aug VOH ~ 14-Sep POE (Abu Dhabi) ~ 01-Oct-17 Got married! 

I-129F     17-Feb-17 Petition sent via FedEx ~ 21-Feb-17 Case received ~ 24-Feb-17 NOA1 ~ 30-May-17 NOA2 12-Jun-17 NVC received / Case and Invoice numbers assigned ~ 20-Jun-17 NVC left

 

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7 minutes ago, Iwo_Jima said:

Why do you refer to you wife as "they"??

People seem to be allergic to using he/she... 

 

It also seems to be a common thing among VJ'ers who break up. :P





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From one bad situation to the next...wow sounds wonderful! haha.....

 

Ok, just had to say that, for now I would say what others are saying..."they" (the illegal person) needs to leave the country and come back the correct way, that is the only answer...take it or leave it. 

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45 minutes ago, doggieandsam said:

since they entered illegally, that means they have no pathway to adjust status. they will need to exit the USA and wait out their bar first (10 years i think in this case). once that is over, only then can you petition them and apply for a waiver for their inadmissibility. this will be difficult and complicated, you will definitely need a lawyer like what others above said.

if you don't want to specify gender, like what OP is trying to do in his/her post, instead of writing "he/she", one can use "they". :)

 

19 minutes ago, javadown2 said:

From one bad situation to the next...wow sounds wonderful! haha.....

 

Ok, just had to say that, for now I would say what others are saying..."they" (the illegal person) needs to leave the country and come back the correct way, that is the only answer...take it or leave it. 

 

 

Thanks for your comments :) However, after reading up a little bit about the waiver process and discovering the form I-601A, there does seem to be an "easier" option. I was hoping someone with a similar experience or greater knowledge could give some input here. Either way I will probably be consulting with an immigration attorney as well. Just trying to get as much knowledge as possible ;)

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44 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

People seem to be allergic to using he/she... 

 

It also seems to be a common thing among VJ'ers who break up. :P

I think the OP is part of a gay couple....She does not want to be judged

 

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59 minutes ago, Iwo_Jima said:

Why do you refer to you wife as "they"??

 

51 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

People seem to be allergic to using he/she... 

 

It also seems to be a common thing among VJ'ers who break up. :P

 

6 minutes ago, NYCruiser said:

I think the OP is part of a gay couple....She does not want to be judged

 

 

Why would you assume I am male and/or gay? (not that it really matters haha) :P Really it is for personal protection, in the off chance that my ex-spouse (who is known to be revengeful and capable of anything) was on this site. I tried to be as vague as possible while still being able to receive relevant feedback to my current situation. 

 

I hope you can all be understanding. 

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