Overcoming a Marriage Fraud label, is it possible?

[Sandra G. 5,023]

I truly believe she is lying to you as she lied to USCIS. She wrote a letter of intent to get married,then do not tell me she did not know.

It doesn't matter if she wanted a better life for her family,people choose other ways to live instead using fraud.What do you expect from someone that tried to scam your Country?

We have hundreds of decisions from the Court of Appeals regarding AOS denied because of sham marriages.You will waste time and money trying to get her here .I know she is not submitting document for AOS,but the l130 will be denied. The punishment is severe.

You didn't ask but here is my advice,find someone's with moral values,because this girl has her moral compass broken. Excusing her fraud attempt is silly to say the least. We have people from poor Countries such as Nigeria Kenya,Philippines,Brazil,Uganda,Colombia etc., that entered here legally.Your girl fraud plan did not work!

[Russ&Caro 1,548]

I truly believe she is lying to you as she lied to USCIS. She wrote a letter of intent to get married,then do not tell me she did not know.

It doesn't matter if she wanted a better life for her family,people choose other ways to live instead using fraud.What do you expect from someone that tried to scam your Country?

We have hundreds of decisions from the Court of Appeals regarding AOS denied because of sham marriages.You will waste time and money trying to get her here .I know she is not submitting document for AOS,but the l130 will be denied. The punishment is severe.

You didn't ask but here is my advice,find someone's with moral values,because this girl has her moral compass broken. Excusing her fraud attempt is silly to say the least. We have people from poor Countries such as Nigeria Kenya,Philippines,Brazil,Uganda,Colombia etc., that entered here legally.Your girl fraud plan did not work!

The OP has been very open about the story so far. Your criticism isn't very helpful and in fact contradicts the facts listed and normal logic. Why would a young woman contradict something in the interview that she created in the letter of intent? Answer: the boy in question forged the letter of intent. Her answers in the interview do indeed seem to indicate no intent of fraud. The OP has visited his now-wife 3 times. I'm going to say that he knows her far better than your illogical armchair analysis.

[Mike-eeh and Odie 192]

First: she would have had to do the letter of intent to marry so she must have known...

Unless of course the petitioner forged her signatures...

[Unchained 37]

I truly believe she is lying to you as she lied to USCIS. She wrote a letter of intent to get married,then do not tell me she did not know.

It doesn't matter if she wanted a better life for her family,people choose other ways to live instead using fraud.What do you expect from someone that tried to scam your Country?

We have hundreds of decisions from the Court of Appeals regarding AOS denied because of sham marriages.You will waste time and money trying to get her here .I know she is not submitting document for AOS,but the l130 will be denied. The punishment is severe.

You didn't ask but here is my advice,find someone's with moral values,because this girl has her moral compass broken. Excusing her fraud attempt is silly to say the least. We have people from poor Countries such as Nigeria Kenya,Philippines,Brazil,Uganda,Colombia etc., that entered here legally.Your girl fraud plan did not work!

And who might you be judging someone like this?

Do you know this person personally? or you are just bitter by default?.

That is supposed to be somebody's wife for Gods sake, if you cannot focus on the subject matter without being judgemental & razz, just read his post and keep moving instead of exposing your natural bitterness on a public platform.

[Adil & Jeanne 296]

If he did, it doesn't matter as when she went to the interview she had to sign disclosure papers stating finacee visa several times

she stated her reasons for wanting the initial visa / none of them qualified for a visa / wanting a good life and better job are not valid reasons

Ask yourself this "Where did this woman think she was going to live when she got here?" Unmarried with a man??

Most attorneys will tell you your case is fruitless. one or two will take your money

[bob.sansmal 14]

I truly believe she is lying to you as she lied to USCIS. She wrote a letter of intent to get married,then do not tell me she did not know.

It doesn't matter if she wanted a better life for her family,people choose other ways to live instead using fraud.What do you expect from someone that tried to scam your Country?

We have hundreds of decisions from the Court of Appeals regarding AOS denied because of sham marriages.You will waste time and money trying to get her here .I know she is not submitting document for AOS,but the l130 will be denied. The punishment is severe.

You didn't ask but here is my advice,find someone's with moral values,because this girl has her moral compass broken. Excusing her fraud attempt is silly to say the least. We have people from poor Countries such as Nigeria Kenya,Philippines,Brazil,Uganda,Colombia etc., that entered here legally.Your girl fraud plan did not work!

But if she was really attempting fraud, why would she have answered "None" and "that he was going to bring her to America, so she could go to college, get a good job, and be able to support her family" in the interview? Unless she's just a really bad liar under pressure.

I do suspect that this will be a whole lot to overcome though - you might want to consider you options that don't include her coming to the U.S. (i.e. finding another partner or moving over there.) Perhaps exploring the "moving over there" option with her will shed some light on the sincerity of her feelings and intentions towards you...and you can decide to move ahead with it or feel better about moving on...

[Boiler 43,726]

The OP has been very open about the story so far. Your criticism isn't very helpful and in fact contradicts the facts listed and normal logic. Why would a young woman contradict something in the interview that she created in the letter of intent? Answer: the boy in question forged the letter of intent. Her answers in the interview do indeed seem to indicate no intent of fraud. The OP has visited his now-wife 3 times. I'm going to say that he knows her far better than your illogical armchair analysis.

I am the cynic here, Sandra has a very different back story as you can see from her posts mainly about abused spouses and the help she provides.

If I was to make a guess having seen thousands of weird posts over the years, well hundreds at least, my guess is that she knew exactly what the application was for, did not have a real relationship with the sponsor and it all came out in the interview that this was just for an immigration benefit.

So was the bit about wanting to move for a better job, lifestyle education etc true, YES.

Was it dragged out of her in the interview, also YES.

Did she go in there and merrily state that from the beginning, NO.

[abhishek1984 5]

I truly believe she is lying to you as she lied to USCIS. She wrote a letter of intent to get married,then do not tell me she did not know.

It doesn't matter if she wanted a better life for her family,people choose other ways to live instead using fraud.What do you expect from someone that tried to scam your Country?

We have hundreds of decisions from the Court of Appeals regarding AOS denied because of sham marriages.You will waste time and money trying to get her here .I know she is not submitting document for AOS,but the l130 will be denied. The punishment is severe.

You didn't ask but here is my advice,find someone's with moral values,because this girl has her moral compass broken. Excusing her fraud attempt is silly to say the least. We have people from poor Countries such as Nigeria Kenya,Philippines,Brazil,Uganda,Colombia etc., that entered here legally.Your girl fraud plan did not work

I share the same opinion but why did she say (whatever she said) at the interview?

[Unidentified 2,930]

If he did, it doesn't matter as when she went to the interview she had to sign disclosure papers stating finacee visa several times

she stated her reasons for wanting the initial visa / none of them qualified for a visa / wanting a good life and better job are not valid reasons

Ask yourself this "Where did this woman think she was going to live when she got here?" Unmarried with a man??

Most attorneys will tell you your case is fruitless. one or two will take your money

What disclosure papers? I didn't sign anything when I went to my interview. No one mentioned the word "fiance visa" to me during the interview. I think, depending on how it works at her embassy, she truly did not know. I guess she was just naive.

[Tahoma 2,291]

1. What was your wife's level of education in 2005? If she went straight into the visa process from the farm, her story may be credible. Otherwise, not.

2. Was your wife interviewed by the U.S. Embassy Manila Fraud Prevention Unit? In other words, did the officers take her to a different room and grill her? They usually grill the applicant in both English and Tagalog. This likely would have prevented any misunderstandings.

[Alimanu 77]

What disclosure papers? I didn't sign anything when I went to my interview. No one mentioned the word "fiance visa" to me during the interview. I think, depending on how it works at her embassy, she truly did not know. I guess she was just naive.

That might be true... My ex did a petition for me in 2009 and it was approved, but i never went for the interview because the relationship did not work out. I never sent/signed any letter of intent or any documents regarding that application. I don't know how she did it with her lawyer, but it was approved.

Now they are married, we should be looking for solutions for them, not making him doubt his wife.

[silvermug 16]

I'm sorry this is happening to you. But some things I find unusual:

1. When your fiance was offered college, job here in the US in 2005 -- something that sounds too good to be true, I am thinking someone would ask -- "... and in return, what has to be done, or what has to happen?"

Let's just say, for the benefit of the doubt, she was truly unaware of that -- the denial at that time was for her own protection. That offer from her ex could have something unpleasant. Because if someone wants to bring her fiance in the US, that person would disclose all the things she should know and not hide that important bit... "oh, by the way, in order to get that college and job here in the US -- you have to marry me. hehe"

2. With her prior experience with American boy, visa, interview at the embassy -- I would think she would have mentioned that bit to you, as well... wayyyy before you got the letter of denial from USCIS. Something like, "Oh hey, by the way, I was in a similar situation 10 years ago, so just to give you a heads up, it may not be that smooth with USCIS because of that past tidbit."

With the lawyer fees these days, you would need to financially brace yourself if you are going to fight this with the help of an attorney.

[kattaklizm 11]

Hey, first of all, I'm really sorry you had to undergo through all of it but in this case the best you can do is to work out a good strategy.

I advise to hire a lawyer only in the case if it's a good lawyer inasmuch as most of them have no clue about an immigration maze. Hence, it's better to hire someone from a firm, which is concentrated only on immigration cases. I tend t belive that attoneys there might be slightly better prepared for the processed that is waiting for you.

So

1) hire a lawyer

2) file the i-601 form, which is Application for Waiver of Grounds of Inadmissibility

After this form was reviewed, the case more likely will be sent to immigration judge and here you will badly need your attorney.

Hope you will find this useful

[Boiler 43,726]

Hey, first of all, I'm really sorry you had to undergo through all of it but in this case the best you can do is to work out a good strategy.

I advise to hire a lawyer only in the case if it's a good lawyer inasmuch as most of them have no clue about an immigration maze. Hence, it's better to hire someone from a firm, which is concentrated only on immigration cases. I tend t belive that attoneys there might be slightly better prepared for the processed that is waiting for you.

So

1) hire a lawyer

2) file the i-601 form, which is Application for Waiver of Grounds of Inadmissibility

After this form was reviewed, the case more likely will be sent to immigration judge and here you will badly need your attorney.

Hope you will find this useful

Not applicable and that is now how a waiver works anyway.

[ohmandd 0]

Hey, first of all, I'm really sorry you had to undergo through all of it but in this case the best you can do is to work out a good strategy.

I advise to hire a lawyer only in the case if it's a good lawyer inasmuch as most of them have no clue about an immigration maze. Hence, it's better to hire someone from a firm, which is concentrated only on immigration cases. I tend t belive that attoneys there might be slightly better prepared for the processed that is waiting for you.

So

1) hire a lawyer

2) file the i-601 form, which is Application for Waiver of Grounds of Inadmissibility

After this form was reviewed, the case more likely will be sent to immigration judge and here you will badly need your attorney.

Hope you will find this useful

Thank you all for helping me and for your concern. I do have a backup plan, that my wife is perfectly fine with, and that is to move with her (in the Philippines). If it comes to that, I want to be able to say that we did our best, even if it wasn't good enough. I agree with the marriage fraud laws and support them; so if she is found to have willingly committed marriage fraud, we will accept it.

As for her intentions, truthfulness, and niavite, she is very carring to all, honest as anyone, and we will be fine where ever we end up.

Thank you kattaklizm, for this info. I will be contacting a lawyer and mentioning this waiver to them.

Dustin