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~Commentary about service centers~

Completed: K1/K2 (271 days) - AOS/EAD/AP (134 days) - ROC (279 days)

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The system isn't perfect. Work loads get shifted from busy centers to less busy centers. That is what has happened.

There can never be a perfect system where first in is first out. Some people who file after will get their visas first. It's life in a large bureaucracy.

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October 30, 2014 - Sent I-129F

November 5, 2014 -USCIS received petition

November 9, 2014 - Check pending

November 10, 2014 - Check cashed and NOA1 received

November 17, 2014 - NOA1 hard copy received

************NO RFE...***************

April 2, 2015 - NOA2 (143 days) (L)

April 8, 2015 - NOA2 hardcopy

April 14, 2015 - Send to NVC

April 21, 2015 - NVC Received petition

April 23, 2015 - Case number assigned

April 25, 2015 - In transit

April 23, 2015 - Package 3 received (Email)

April 27, 2015 - Consulate received petition

May 5, 2015 - Package 3 completed & NVC letter received

May 18, 2015 - Medical

May 27, 2015 - Pick up medical results

May 29, 2015 - Interview ----- APPROVED! :dancing:

June 8, 2015 - Administrative Processing

June 9, 2015 - ISSUED! :luv:

June 12, 2015 - Visa Received :dancing:

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The system isn't perfect. Work loads get shifted from busy centers to less busy centers. That is what has happened.

There can never be a perfect system where first in is first out. Some people who file after will get their visas first. It's life in a large bureaucracy.

True, but then why not improve the system, after all that's how 'progress' happens and things improve. From what I underatand it's been the same way for years and years. Why aren't the people responsible doing their jobs?

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SO on point. Anyone who thinks that those who have had to wait 200+ days, and watch others' take less time than that for the entire process, will NOT just forget the heartache they've suffered. This year won't just disappear when my future husband is here. I will not easily forget a year I spent battling depression and outbursts of crying and feeling as though your hearts being ripped out of your chest.

We all know what it feels like to be separated from our loved ones. But how it feels to be separated while also seeing that it's unnecessary and due to others' incompetencies is a whole nother beast I fight every day.

Day 134, and to think I may be facing 70+ more. Seventy.

Congrats on escaping tsc.

Thanks, to be honest when we first got the noa2 i forgot about all the heartache for a while, but for some reason now the visa is approved and I can reflect on it all, I feel pissed off, when I should be ecstatic. But don't let my grim demeanour get you down! You will get there, my advice is try to focus on making your life where you are now the best you can, enjoy time with family and friends before you inevitably leave. And get everything prepared, police certs, vaccinations etc. I thought I was prepared but still left stuff last minute.

Keep figthing every day like it's your last, for after all it's gonna be worth it. I know the worst part is not knowing but It WILL end, even if now it feels like it never will. Good luck!

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Thanks for your kind words. 170+ days and no end in sight. If my fiancé's mathematical calculations are correct regarding averages, we won't be seen to until 208-214 days. We will not be forgetting how ridiculous this process is when all is said and done. Congrats on your approval.

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K-1 - AOS & ROC Timeline  - Immigration and the Health Exchange Price of Love in the UK Thinking of Returning to UK?


First met: 12/31/04 - Engaged: 9/24/09
Filed I-129F: 10/4/14 - Packet received: 10/7/14
NOA 1 email + ARN assigned: 10/10/14 (hard copy 10/17/14)
Touched on website (fixed?): 12/9/14 - Poked USCIS: 4/1/15
NOA 2 email: 5/4/15 (hard copy 5/11/15)
Sent to NVC: 5/8/15 - NVC received + #'s assigned: 5/15/15 (estimated)
NVC sent: 5/19/15 - London received/ready: 5/26/15
Packet 3: 5/28/15 - Medical: 6/16/15
Poked London 7/1/15 - Packet 4: 7/2/15
Interview: 7/30/15 - Approved!
AP + Issued 8/3/15 - Visa in hand (depot): 8/6/15
POE: 8/27/15

Wedding: 9/30/15

Filed I-485, I-131, I-765: 11/7/15

Packet received: 11/9/15

NOA 1 txt/email: 11/15/15 - NOA 1 hardcopy: 11/19/15

Bio: 12/9/15

EAD + AP approved: 1/25/16 - EAD received: 2/1/16

RFE for USCIS inability to read vax instructions: 5/21/16 (no e-notification & not sent from local office!)

RFE response sent: 6/7/16 - RFE response received 6/9/16

AOS approved/card in production: 6/13/16  

NOA 2 hardcopy + card sent 6/17/16

Green Card received: 6/18/16

USCIS 120 day reminder notice: 2/22/18

Filed I-751: 5/2/18 - Packet received: 5/4/18

NOA 1:  5/29/18 (12 mo) 8/13/18 (18 mo)  - Bio: 6/27/18

Transferred: Potomac Service Center 3/26/19

Approved/New Card Produced status: 4/25/19 - NOA2 hardcopy 4/29/19

10yr Green Card Received: 5/2/19 - Error will need to file I90 >_<


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The pain and frustration is still very current for you but you really will forget all of this sooner than you think. Once you get started on your life with your significant other, in the same place, where you can reach out and actually touch them when you want to... it will be a memory that fades. Eventually all of this raw emotion will simply become a small part of your big life together that you can finally start! Congratulations on your approval.

2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2

2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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Try being denied, my husband was denied cr1 visa in Feb after a 11 month wait.now we wait again with endless phone calls to the nvc , senator, I'm truelly happy for those who are joined with their loved ones.but now I spend my days dealing with loss of my mother and not having my husband with me.I feel I can't breath at times, some days I feel I can't go on, but I do .I miss my husband so much. And one way or another we will spend our lives together.and I thought god was our only judge...

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So had my interview today and was approved, and whilst obviosuly happy this post is not about that, I write this for all those still waiting at TSC, you are not forgotten my friends!

I know the disparity between TSC and CSC processing times isn't exactly the biggest injustice in the world, but it is staggering that an organisation with the funding and size of USCIS can't sort it's s**t out, processing some people in a month while others in a year, for no other reason that geographical location.

I've been through almost a year of hell waiting at TSC while others sail through at CSC in a month or two. And you can say well its over now, or it will soon be forgotten, but I don't forget, and it will take a while for the scars to heal.

Am i being dramatic, well yeah a bit, a lot worse happens in the world, but thats not the point. Being seperated from your loved one for a year while others only face a couple months apart, when those people are paying the same for the same process is ridiculous. There are STILL people waiting at TSC who applied the sae time as me, so this is for you, I feel your pain, I'm praying for you and you are not forgotten, apart from by those working at TSC. For those at TSC, good luck, and god bless, I made it, just, you will too.

Not even that. There are some of us suffering through unfair treatment by embassies. I have been trying to get my husband here since 2012. And there are many others like me, some who have been waiting in AP for years. The truth of the matter is, when they see us on paperwork they already determine if they want to give us a visa or make our life a living hell. And there is nothing we can do about it but suffer.

Congratulations and I applaud you, because you did not forget about people who are left behind.

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Its not fair and its beyond ridiculous. The disparity between the 2 centers is atrocious. Tsc is taking roughly 7X compared to CSC.

Imagine Amazon has 2 distribution centers. One in CA and one in TX. CA distribution delivers packages in 3 days. Meanwhile Amazon's Texas customers receive their packages 21 days later. Do you know how many heads would roll?

If this scenario was in the private sector, you'd have mass firings.

Our lives have basically been put on hold due to subpar management, planning, workers work ethic, etc. Whatever the underlying reason.

At least let us have a tiny wedding ceremony so that we can make it official. Nope, you can't do that.

Something has to change.

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