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I guess this post is a rant. I got a conditional green card in 2018, then applied for the actual green card in 2020. I was informed that no matter what I do, I have to wait for 5 years, and that the 3-year timeline starts once I lift the conditional approval from my green card (so 3 years from 2020). I don’t know if I missed the changes in law, or if I was just massively misinformed, but I just realized today that I could have applied for n400 in 2021. I only found out because I was preparing for n400 application, and one of the question in the very beginning was “I married for 3 years..” or something so it got me start looking. 
 

I guess my question is… at this point, what do I select for the basis of citizenship application? Should I select that I’ve been a GC holder for 5 years? Or been married for at least 3 yesrs?

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18 minutes ago, Charmss said:

Yes.

Yes you could have applied sooner.

 

If you have 5 years of tax return transcripts, definitely apply under the 5 year rule.

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7 minutes ago, Charmss said:

Thanks! And yes I was…. Smh 

My wife recently naturalized under the 5 year rule.  Online filing was a piece of cake.  We didn't need to submit bona fide marriage evidence.  Filing to oath took less than 6 months. I hope your journey will be fast, too.  Being out from under the thumb of USCIS is a wonderful feeling.

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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22 hours ago, Charmss said:

Thanks! And yes I was…. Smh 

So it's not all bad news. Yes you were misinformed, but on the other hand now you get to do the easier path documentation and interview wise! Best of luck

US entry :

GC issued :
CIS Office :

2016 (me, H-1B) / 2017 (her, H-4)

2018-06-20

Chicago IL

Date Filed : 2023-03-22

NOA Date :

Bio. Appt. Notice :

2023-03-22

2023-03-24

Bio. Appt. :

2023-04-13

Interview Notice :

Interview Date :

Oath Ceremony :

2023-05-24

2023-07-13 (approved)

TBD

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It is now 90 days before the 5 year mark since I got the conditional green card in 2018 (now I am an LPR)We’ve been married for 6, been living together for past 3 consecutive yrs til now. 
 

Can I file N400 under a 5 year rule? Or should I do it under 3 year rule?

 

if I can do it under 5 year rule, do I still need to provide marriage certificate, tax transcript, rent agreement, ownership of assets, etc because my nature of green card was through marriage?

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If eligible, you can (and should) file under the 5 year rule.  Less paperwork, easy application. 

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Hi @Charmss,  if you're eligible, file under 5 year rule.

 

You still will need to provide tax return transcripts for the last five years to show your good moral character. I think you still need to provide marriage certificate to prove your marital status.

 

For N-400 under 5 year rule, you wouldn't need to provide bonafide marriage evidence.

 

However, if you're I-751 is still pending, you and your spouse can still be interviewed or get RFE asking for more bonafide marriage evidence.

 

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