Is a fiance or marriage visa a better path if getting pregnant during the application process?

[Zoeeeeeee 795]

Just wanted to add to this from the perspective of someone currently going through the IVF process (I'm 37). 

 

Realistically, it's likely going to be difficult for your partner to naturally conceive at 43. I don't want to make you feel negative, but when you have a limited window, it's important to be realistic. I'm currently going through IVF due to infertility, as are 3 of my friends, who are aged 40, 41 and 41.

 

@Jeanne Adil made an excellent point re the risk of giving birth to a child as an unwed mother - so it definitely sounds like you should prioritize marrying first of all, before anything else.

 

I would then recommend starting IVF in Iran. By all means, try naturally first of all if you want - but I can't express this enough - don't waste a lot of time on this. At 43, your partner's chance of naturally just conceiving is less than 5% - and that doesn't even factor in the increased chance of miscarriages (unfortunately, I also speak from experience of miscarriages too).

 

I've just checked the prices of IVF in Iran and they are SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than in the US. To put things in perspective, the cost of one IVF cycle at the hospital/clinic I use costs around $30,000, once you factor in all the meds, appointments, procedures, etc. 

 

So, financially, it's probably better to do IVF in Iran. You could also then get married, apply for the CR1 and then do the IVF process whilst you're waiting for the CR1 to come through. You don't need to be present for the IVF process, except for giving a sample at the clinic - which can then be frozen for when it's needed. 

 

I know this isn't the information you've asked for - but I think it's really important that you both have this info, if you're not already aware.

[az_jared 3]

On 6/18/2023 at 3:55 PM, medellingringo said:

I would say that having a child that is a US citizen and has a US passport before the wife's visa interview is a positive overall. Our child was born when my wife was 30 and I was 56. When our daughter was a about 9 months old we went to the US embassy and got her a US passport. Then about a year and a half later we applied for my wife's visa. Took about 14 months to get the visa.  Very easy interview. Considering the age gap and the fact that I had been married a few times before to younger foreign women. 

On a side note I had to get a DNA test to prove the child was mine. I was told by the embassy that they probably wouldn't have required the DNA test if I had been married to my wife at the time the our child was born. Also I moved to and  lived with my wife and child in Colombia shortly after our child was born and stayed there until my wife got her immigrant visa. 

Thank you very much for sharing. I am happy to hear of your success. Do I  understand you correctly that you were not yet married when your child was born? What embassy did you go through?

Edited June 20, 2023 by az_jared
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[CarlosV 2]

I would think the child born abroad would have no issue as the child would be provided a passport. The mother would have to go to the US Embassy or Consulate to report the birth from my understanding.  

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/birth-abroad.html

[az_jared 3]

On 6/18/2023 at 7:07 PM, Nonie said:

We went the K-3 with my wife. During the wait for an interview she became pregnant and barely beat her giving birth by 3 months. Unless your wife gives birth no adjustment, or paperwork, should be needed.

What type of adjustment and paperwork is needed if she does give birth?

[erika86 6]

On 6/11/2023 at 10:01 PM, az_jared said:

My fiance and I are both almost 43 and want a child very much. By the time a visa is given, it may be too late to start a family. How does getting pregnant/having a child during the application process affect the process? Does anyone have experience with this? Would it be better to apply for a fiance or a marriage visa if we may get pregnant/have a child during the process?

We both got residency in Spain, and waited there during our years-long spousal visa application.  (My spouse cannot enter the US without a visa, and so we could not do AOS as suggested by some of our confused European friends.) 

 

Spain has great IVF clinics.  

Edited June 26, 2023 by erika86
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[Spardasa 78]

My wife got pregnant with our first child right before we started the K1 visa process.  Did it complicate the process for K1?  No, but it adds stress to everyone.

 

Did I sweat bullets having to do CBRA + K1 Visa interviews 2 days in a row?  Heck yes.  I was worried the consulate would force us to do DNA testing to verify the child was mine since we weren't 'married' at the time.  Funny enough, the consulate officer had me hold up my 1 month old daughter next to me, saw she REALLY looked like me, and then had me lower her and continued with the interview.

 

I honestly think it may had helped the K1 visa approval that we had the CBRA interview the day before my wife's K1 visa interview.  

[Maxheadspace 48]

Both are major life decisions, child and immigration.  If you wait with having a child there's a strong chance you will not be able to conceive.  Having a child before you actually travel may add a delay to the process, but you'll still be able to get the visa.  That way you have both a child and your visa.  Don't wait with having the child.

Edited July 9, 2023 by Maxheadspace

[milimelo 4,211]

On 6/20/2023 at 8:56 PM, CarlosV said:

I would think the child born abroad would have no issue as the child would be provided a passport. The mother would have to go to the US Embassy or Consulate to report the birth from my understanding.  

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/birth-abroad.html

No US embassy in Iran. They'd have to go through Protecting Power which is Swiss embassy for CRBA and to Turkey for IV appointment.

[dwheels76 5,463]

On 6/18/2023 at 9:21 PM, Boiler said:

Wow I do not think I have seen a K3 here in a decade

Back in 2006 was when K3 was truly popular since it took years to get spouse here. Man they filed a minute ago.  WOW.

[dwheels76 5,463]

On 6/12/2023 at 5:43 PM, Dashinka said:

OP is short for “original poster” of the thread, in this case you.  I agree with the others that suggest given the country of your girlfriend, I would also recommend the spousal visa route.  You can do the Utah online Zoom wedding when you are next together in Turkey.

 

Good Luck!

Just FYI the two people getting married don;t have to be in same place. But they do have to "Consummate" meet up after the ceremony and before filing I-130. I know a few coupes who have done the UTAH zoom wedding and both parties were in different countries all approved and living in US. This zoom thing getting popular in these had to marry places and especially for those condemned to get married in certain countries so they keep it on the low low.