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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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4 hours ago, Msm88 said:

Hello,

As a beneficiary, should I write a separate letter of intent to marry with my signature? or it has to be one letter with both signature? 

and should I write another letter explaining our meeting etc..? 

I'm happy to provide you with what we've submitted. Our consulate is located in The Netherlands, Amsterdam.
 

We got approved (NOA1 April 15, 2021) yesterday, and this is what we've submitted (again, we were not sure if everything that I'm listing right now is required, but we wanted to be safe than sorry):

1. Cover letter that describes
2. The filled in I-129F
3. Petitioner's birth certificate
4. Petitioner's passport with stamps
5. Beneficiary's birth certificate + translated (I wanted my full name for my k1 visa, and my dutch nationality doesn't include this, that's why)
6. Beneficiary's Brazilian passport + dutch passport with stamps
7. Previous ESTA applications that show that I traveled to the US + my old J1 visa
8. Flight tickets from both of us
9. Flight boarding passes from both of us
10. Letter on how we met from both the petitioner + beneficiary (signed by both of us)
11. Letter with meetings in the past 2 years (just 1, signed by both of us)
12. Receipts from hotels, Airbnb, parks, aquariums, museums with both of our names on the receipts / confirmation emails (basically to prove to them that we spent time with each other)
13. Letter with intent to marry from both the petitioner + beneficiary (signed by both of us)
14. Photos of our engagement
15. Letters to each other
16. Text messages and phone call screenshots
17. Our wedding preparations (back and forth emails with some venues)
18. Photos of proof of our relationship (we submitted around 40 photos with date and location written underneath each photo)
19. US passport sized photos of both the petitioner + the beneficiary
20. A PMO check to the USCIS
21. Form G-1145 for e-notifications


Again, most of this is probably redundant, however, I assume some of it can be used during the interview as well, which is where they decide whether your relationship is real or not.
For our consulate interview I basically copied my entire petition to bring with me, and:

1. I added recent photos of our relationship
2. I added recent flight tickets
3. I re-dated all letters (intent to marry, meetings in past year, letter on how we met)
4. Added letters of support from our pastor and the petitioner's mother

Additionally (FOR THE INTERVIEW, so after my NOA2), I also have my:
1. Police certificate
2. I-134 affidavit of support attached with the petitioner's last couple of pay stubs, the beneficiary's savings statement, the petitioner's savings, the petitioner's job contract, the petitioner's tax returns, the petitioner's 401k summary
3. Around 8 new passport photos (i need them for the medical i think + the interview for sure)
4. Proof of my vaccinations to give to the physician during the medical test, and I also made sure I have all vaccines before the medical (check the travel.gov site for the full list of vaccines)


I think this is pretty much what we have submitted, and what we are bringing with us to the consulate. I hope it helped, and again, this is what helped me get approved, do whatever you want with it
:)

 

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11 hours ago, brainilio said:

I'm happy to provide you with what we've submitted. Our consulate is located in The Netherlands, Amsterdam.
 

We got approved (NOA1 April 15, 2021) yesterday, and this is what we've submitted (again, we were not sure if everything that I'm listing right now is required, but we wanted to be safe than sorry):

1. Cover letter that describes
2. The filled in I-129F
3. Petitioner's birth certificate
4. Petitioner's passport with stamps
5. Beneficiary's birth certificate + translated (I wanted my full name for my k1 visa, and my dutch nationality doesn't include this, that's why)
6. Beneficiary's Brazilian passport + dutch passport with stamps
7. Previous ESTA applications that show that I traveled to the US + my old J1 visa
8. Flight tickets from both of us
9. Flight boarding passes from both of us
10. Letter on how we met from both the petitioner + beneficiary (signed by both of us)
11. Letter with meetings in the past 2 years (just 1, signed by both of us)
12. Receipts from hotels, Airbnb, parks, aquariums, museums with both of our names on the receipts / confirmation emails (basically to prove to them that we spent time with each other)
13. Letter with intent to marry from both the petitioner + beneficiary (signed by both of us)
14. Photos of our engagement
15. Letters to each other
16. Text messages and phone call screenshots
17. Our wedding preparations (back and forth emails with some venues)
18. Photos of proof of our relationship (we submitted around 40 photos with date and location written underneath each photo)
19. US passport sized photos of both the petitioner + the beneficiary
20. A PMO check to the USCIS
21. Form G-1145 for e-notifications


Again, most of this is probably redundant, however, I assume some of it can be used during the interview as well, which is where they decide whether your relationship is real or not.
For our consulate interview I basically copied my entire petition to bring with me, and:

1. I added recent photos of our relationship
2. I added recent flight tickets
3. I re-dated all letters (intent to marry, meetings in past year, letter on how we met)
4. Added letters of support from our pastor and the petitioner's mother

Additionally (FOR THE INTERVIEW, so after my NOA2), I also have my:
1. Police certificate
2. I-134 affidavit of support attached with the petitioner's last couple of pay stubs, the beneficiary's savings statement, the petitioner's savings, the petitioner's job contract, the petitioner's tax returns, the petitioner's 401k summary
3. Around 8 new passport photos (i need them for the medical i think + the interview for sure)
4. Proof of my vaccinations to give to the physician during the medical test, and I also made sure I have all vaccines before the medical (check the travel.gov site for the full list of vaccines)


I think this is pretty much what we have submitted, and what we are bringing with us to the consulate. I hope it helped, and again, this is what helped me get approved, do whatever you want with it
:)

 

Thank you very much for the help, do I need to submit my birth certificate as well? But is the beneficiary birth certificate required when filing the i129f? 

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14 hours ago, Family said:

Excellent documentation! Well done. Hopefully OP follows your lead .

Thank you so much! I try my best to be as transparent as I can with everyone, cause I know how much stress this process can bring. 

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2 hours ago, Rami679 said:

Thank you very much for the help, do I need to submit my birth certificate as well? But is the beneficiary birth certificate required when filing the i129f? 

Of course! Honestly, I can’t recall if it’s a real requirement and I think a passport would suffice. However, I have a different last name on my Brazilian birth certificate than my current Dutch passport, and I wanted my full name to be on my k1 visa, so I had to submit my birth certificate to prove my full name :) 

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On 6/4/2022 at 11:42 AM, Msm88 said:

Hello,

As a beneficiary, should I write a separate letter of intent to marry with my signature? or it has to be one letter with both signature? 

and should I write another letter explaining our meeting etc..? 

You don't NEED to..but you never know who is going to be looking at your paperwork and if it could help. I had both of us sign ours since we didn't have any of the other more ""Traditional"" proof of intent to marry like an engagement ring receipt, wedding venue receipt, or dress or photographer receipt. We just had our guest list, a pinterest board shared between us of our wedding inspirations, a trello board of our tasks to do. I really think the letter is what helped us along in this case.

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11 minutes ago, KingCopperbeard said:

I had both of us sign ours since we didn't have any of the other more ""Traditional"" proof of intent to marry like an engagement ring receipt, wedding venue receipt, or dress or photographer receipt.

 

You had to because it's required.  A signed letter of intent to marry is a requirement listed in the I-129F instructions.  On the other hand, the "traditional" proofs you mentioned above are not required at all.

 

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On 6/8/2022 at 1:00 PM, Chancy said:

 

You had to because it's required.  A signed letter of intent to marry is a requirement listed in the I-129F instructions.  On the other hand, the "traditional" proofs you mentioned above are not required at all.

 

This is not true. You need to provide intent to marry. It does not necessarily need to be a typed and signed letter. The wording is tricky. 

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On 6/4/2022 at 4:20 PM, brainilio said:

I'm happy to provide you with what we've submitted. Our consulate is located in The Netherlands, Amsterdam.
 

We got approved (NOA1 April 15, 2021) yesterday, and this is what we've submitted (again, we were not sure if everything that I'm listing right now is required, but we wanted to be safe than sorry):

1. Cover letter that describes
2. The filled in I-129F
3. Petitioner's birth certificate
4. Petitioner's passport with stamps
5. Beneficiary's birth certificate + translated (I wanted my full name for my k1 visa, and my dutch nationality doesn't include this, that's why)
6. Beneficiary's Brazilian passport + dutch passport with stamps
7. Previous ESTA applications that show that I traveled to the US + my old J1 visa
8. Flight tickets from both of us
9. Flight boarding passes from both of us
10. Letter on how we met from both the petitioner + beneficiary (signed by both of us)
11. Letter with meetings in the past 2 years (just 1, signed by both of us)
12. Receipts from hotels, Airbnb, parks, aquariums, museums with both of our names on the receipts / confirmation emails (basically to prove to them that we spent time with each other)
13. Letter with intent to marry from both the petitioner + beneficiary (signed by both of us)
14. Photos of our engagement
15. Letters to each other
16. Text messages and phone call screenshots
17. Our wedding preparations (back and forth emails with some venues)
18. Photos of proof of our relationship (we submitted around 40 photos with date and location written underneath each photo)
19. US passport sized photos of both the petitioner + the beneficiary
20. A PMO check to the USCIS
21. Form G-1145 for e-notifications


Again, most of this is probably redundant, however, I assume some of it can be used during the interview as well, which is where they decide whether your relationship is real or not.
For our consulate interview I basically copied my entire petition to bring with me, and:

1. I added recent photos of our relationship
2. I added recent flight tickets
3. I re-dated all letters (intent to marry, meetings in past year, letter on how we met)
4. Added letters of support from our pastor and the petitioner's mother

Additionally (FOR THE INTERVIEW, so after my NOA2), I also have my:
1. Police certificate
2. I-134 affidavit of support attached with the petitioner's last couple of pay stubs, the beneficiary's savings statement, the petitioner's savings, the petitioner's job contract, the petitioner's tax returns, the petitioner's 401k summary
3. Around 8 new passport photos (i need them for the medical i think + the interview for sure)
4. Proof of my vaccinations to give to the physician during the medical test, and I also made sure I have all vaccines before the medical (check the travel.gov site for the full list of vaccines)


I think this is pretty much what we have submitted, and what we are bringing with us to the consulate. I hope it helped, and again, this is what helped me get approved, do whatever you want with it
:)

 

Thank you! I just panicked when I saw on a Facebook group that you could get an RFE if you and your Fiance sign the same letter of intent and obviously that did not happen to you 

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On 6/10/2022 at 12:34 AM, KingCopperbeard said:

This is not true. You need to provide intent to marry. It does not necessarily need to be a typed and signed letter. The wording is tricky. 

Correct, I as the petitioner provided a signed/notarized letter of intent to marry, but my fiancée as beneficiary did not provide her own letter(she had plenty of other evidence included, however, like pictures together, chat logs, etc). When I went to our US embassy here in Bahrain(we both live/work in Bahrain) to have my letter of intent to marry notarized, the consular officer informed that this letter was not required and it did not need to be notarized, but he notarized it per my request, which I submitted in my I-129f petition packet. I  also did provide signed letters of attestation from both my friends/family & her friends that attested to the relationship & intent to marry. USCIS approved the petition.

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On 6/4/2022 at 4:19 PM, Family said:

Excellent documentation! Well done. Hopefully OP follows your lead .

That was overkill.....

On 6/15/2022 at 9:45 PM, Sasha Uneek said:

I just panicked when I saw on a Facebook group that you could get an RFE if you and your Fiance sign the same letter of intent

That is bogus.......

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