Two COVID Positive Hairstylists Served 140 People. Not One Customer Was Infected

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Two Missouri hairstylists saw dozens of customers while symptomatic with COVID-19 but did not pass the disease on to either customers or coworkers.

 

The Springfield-Greene County Health Department announced earlier this week that the incubation period for 147 people potentially exposed to the coronavirus had passed.

 

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/two-covid-positive-hairstylists-served-140-people-not-one-customer-was-infected

 

[TBoneTX 43,326]

The hairstylists were probably Antifa or BLM protesters, which would make them immune to the virus.

[Dashinka 23,324]

Interesting, my Governor has been saying all along that hairstylist and barbers are among the most probable professions to pass along the. ChiVi.  Of course, that didn’t stop her from getting her hair taken care of for TV appearances.

[laylalex 7,253]

This is actually really good news! It shows that taking precautions works. All the customers and the stylists were wearing face coverings, and the salon staggered how many people could be seen at the same time and spaced out the chairs further. 

 

https://ktvz.com/news/national-world/2020/06/11/two-hairstylists-who-had-coronavirus-saw-140-clients-officials-are-studying-how-no-one-got-infected/

[Dashinka 23,324]

6 minutes ago, laylalex said:

This is actually really good news! It shows that taking precautions works. All the customers and the stylists were wearing face coverings, and the salon staggered how many people could be seen at the same time and spaced out the chairs further. 

 

https://ktvz.com/news/national-world/2020/06/11/two-hairstylists-who-had-coronavirus-saw-140-clients-officials-are-studying-how-no-one-got-infected/

Yes, and couldn’t those precautions have been implemented a month or more ago?

[laylalex 7,253]

3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Yes, and couldn’t those precautions have been implemented a month or more ago?

I'm not an epidemiologist.  But I think from what I know is that each community is going to have different points at which the rate of infection and rate of hospitalizations have dropped to a point where it IS safe (or safe enough) to carry these activities out. 

 

I need a haircut myself but I am not convinced that this county should be opening as rapidly as it is. The rates of infection/hospitalization have started to tick up again. I expect to see the numbers climb after the protests, which are ongoing. So our plan here at home is to wait until at least 2 weeks after the protests are over here to see what the numbers are like. We're both pretty shaggy but it's only hair in the end. Ditto for dining in -- I have friends who have invited us out to dinner at a restaurant that is offering dine in service now, but my appetite for risk is low, even if my appetite for having Italian food in a restaurant instead of on the couch is pretty high.  

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Yes, and couldn’t those precautions have been implemented a month or more ago

Maybe, but it's clear people were just making **** up as they went along. Those in the right mindset sprang into action to immediately protect the vulnerable. Others were in a frenzy to grab power+hurt Trump vis-a-vis the economy and kinda ignored the whole part about protecting vulnerable people. 

Edited June 11, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[JonSeattle 201]

It depends on the age of the customers also. They could cut kids' hair while coughing all day long and they aren't going to get them sick. Seniors? ☠️

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 hours ago, laylalex said:

This is actually really good news! It shows that taking precautions works. All the customers and the stylists were wearing face coverings, and the salon staggered how many people could be seen at the same time and spaced out the chairs further. 

 

https://ktvz.com/news/national-world/2020/06/11/two-hairstylists-who-had-coronavirus-saw-140-clients-officials-are-studying-how-no-one-got-infected/

Or... it was never near as transmittable as we were led to believe by the mass hysteria of the media.  Given the rates we are seeing today, now that more data is in, I know what I believe.   YMMV

[laylalex 7,253]

1 hour ago, JonSeattle said:

It depends on the age of the customers also. They could cut kids' hair while coughing all day long and they aren't going to get them sick. Seniors? ☠️

That's not really true though. Kids can and DO contract COVID19. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-in-babies-and-children/art-20484405

 

I do agree seniors should stay home.

25 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Or... it was never near as transmittable as we were led to believe by the mass hysteria of the media.  Given the rates we are seeing today, now that more data is in, I know what I believe.   YMMV

Huh? The reason why rates are low is because we stayed at home, and when we did need to go out, we took precautions.  

 

I know what I believe, and it doesn't match what you're saying at all. That's okay, we can agree to disagree without being disagreeable.

[Ban Hammer 12,864]

12 minutes ago, laylalex said:

and when we did need to go out, we took precautions.  

 

i do the same - it's called conceal carry.  

[laylalex 7,253]

3 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

i do the same - it's called conceal carry.  

That's not what I was thinking but okay.  

[Dashinka 23,324]

12 hours ago, laylalex said:

That's not really true though. Kids can and DO contract COVID19. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-in-babies-and-children/art-20484405

 

I do agree seniors should stay home.

Huh? The reason why rates are low is because we stayed at home, and when we did need to go out, we took precautions.  

 

I know what I believe, and it doesn't match what you're saying at all. That's okay, we can agree to disagree without being disagreeable.

So you are buying into the narrative?  I can agree with the precaution thing, and everyone has to weigh their own level of risk, but all businesses could have introduced these precautions much sooner, instead we get individual governors claiming they are using science to make decisions and making arbitrary choices as to which businesses or services are essential.  

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

13 hours ago, laylalex said:

That's not really true though. Kids can and DO contract COVID19. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-in-babies-and-children/art-20484405

 

I do agree seniors should stay home.

Huh? The reason why rates are low is because we stayed at home, and when we did need to go out, we took precautions.  

 

I know what I believe, and it doesn't match what you're saying at all. That's okay, we can agree to disagree without being disagreeable.

I think the entire country of S. Korea agrees with me.  But we'll never know for sure either way.

[laylalex 7,253]

2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

So you are buying into the narrative?  I can agree with the precaution thing, and everyone has to weigh their own level of risk, but all businesses could have introduced these precautions much sooner, instead we get individual governors claiming they are using science to make decisions and making arbitrary choices as to which businesses or services are essential.  

This is what I'm talking about: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-masks-study-idUSKBN23G37V

 

It's not just masks or distancing or lockdowns, it's all of them together. And having a harsher lockdown at the beginning was important because there was so much we didn't know (and still don't) about the virus. We know more now than we did then, and the lockdowns bought us time and saved people from getting infected while we puzzled it out, and continue to puzzle it out. 

 

Knowledge isn't static, it's dynamic, and builds upon itself. As we gain more, we adapt our response. None of this has been perfect, but we are all humans, messy creatures, limited and empowered by our brains. This has all been absolutely awful, but there never could be a perfect response. 

 

I don't think there ever would be a way to determine what is an essential business and what is not that would satisfy everyone. I think most people would agree that pharmacies and grocery stores are. And places like Home Depot were essential because keeping your home repaired is essential. Car repair places too. But it's not necessary to go to Nordstrom or a shoe store or a gift shop. We don't need to eat in a restaurant dining room. We have all been called on to make sacrifices now and small business owners have taken the brunt of this. Frankly there needs to be a Main Street bailout. 

 

Just my thoughts.