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Will USCIS Take a Temp customer copy of the marriage certificate for AOS?

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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I apologize  for asking this question, as Ive been it asked before, only with confusing answers. My fiance is coming in on the K1 next week, and we plan to get married in LA county pretty soon after. I looked at wedding chapels, and the one we are thinking of gives you a temp copy of the marriage certificate on the day (with notary and officiate signatures), but then also  request a certified copy that will come from the County clerk office to you in 6-8 weeks.

 

Would it be ok to just send USCIS the temp copy for AOS, EAD, and AP, and then send them the certified copy when it comes if we get an RFE? In people experience have they accepted that as proof or no?

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Haydnator said:

I apologize  for asking this question, as Ive been it asked before, only with confusing answers. My fiance is coming in on the K1 next week, and we plan to get married in LA county pretty soon after. I looked at wedding chapels, and the one we are thinking of gives you a temp copy of the marriage certificate on the day (with notary and officiate signatures), but then also  request a certified copy that will come from the County clerk office to you in 6-8 weeks.

 

Would it be ok to just send USCIS the temp copy for AOS, EAD, and AP, and then send them the certified copy when it comes if we get an RFE? In people experience have they accepted that as proof or no?

 

 

No, they will not accept the commemorative copy from the chapel.  Only the real thing.

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I'm not sure if it will be accepted or not, but generally a copy of the certified certificate is suggested.

 

I would not suggest filing with the expectation to receive an RFE for a required document. USCIS provided a memo recently (2018?) with guidance to deny instead of RFE "placeholder" applications. Placeholder applications are essentially those filed without the required documents in anticipation of providing it later.


Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Myanmar
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Your plan risks an RFE, and also risks being taken into custody by ICE.

 

Do not get married in LA county or any county bordering LA county. Get married in a county that gives you a marriage cert in a couple days. This way there will be time to:

 

* Apply for SS card (2 days after POE). Need passport and I-94. Must no be married yet.

 

* Get SS card (2 weeks later)

 

* Add the K-1 to a utility bill

 

* Open a joint bank account

 

* Get married

 

* Get marriage cert

 

* Take cert, SS card, utility bill, bank statement to DMV to get a REAL ID (must be done at day 30 or earlier)

 

* Apply for AoS with a real marriage cert, plus the joint utility bill, and bank account statement as proof of bonafide marriage. Do this well before day 90 so that there is time to get an I-797 back which extends authorized presence.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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Look at getting married in orange county. I read from another post that you can get the certify copy within 5-10 business days after they register the marriage certificate with orange county.

 

That my plan to go to orange county and get marry at the orange county.

 

http://www.ocrecorder.com/services/records/marriage

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I know everyone's experience is different, but I thought I'd add my own here given I was married in LA County last August- 16 days after my wife (then fiance) arrived in country.  We got married at the county office at Norwalk.  They'll give you a temporary marriage certificate that day after it's signed by your 1-2 witnesses.  I immediately used that as proof with my employer to get my wife on my health insurance.  I had previously heard horror stories and long delays about getting the official, certified, permanent marriage certificate in LA, and was nervous about being able to file AOS in a timely manor.   The county clerk I spoke with confidently said that I should have it in 3 weeks.  I really didn't believe it, but 2.5 weeks later, I was very surprised to see an LA County envelope with the certificate in my mailbox.     I'm sure there is some credence to the poor reputation LA County has in turning around marriage certificates, but that was not my experience.    That said, I do think it would be advisable to marry sooner than later after the fiance arrives to give yourself extra time if/when unexpected delays occur.   Good luck!

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It won't be accepted. You could pick up the original marriage certificates by yourself at the County Clerk's Office to speed up the procedure. 


AOS Timeline:

Data Filed: 16 November 2019

First NOA: 22 November 2019

BIO Appt: 17 December 2019

Status updated to "Interview ready to be scheduled": 6 February 2020

Status updated to "Interview was scheduled": 7 February 2020

Second NOA: 13 February 2020

Interview appt: 18 March 2020 (cancelled)

Change of address: September 2020

New Interview appt: 18 November 2020

Received EAD/AP combo card: 4 April 2020

 

Field Office: San Diego. Originally filed in Detroit, MI.

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Sorry but they won't accept that. You need a real copy from the clerk.

 

We were able to go in and get ours within days of being married, and asked them for several copies as you're going to need them. Unfortunately it looks like CA takes a long time. Ever considered Vegas?

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K-1 - AOS & ROC Timeline  - Immigration and the Health Exchange Price of Love in the UK Thinking of Returning to UK?

 

First met: 12/31/04 - Engaged: 9/24/09
Filed I-129F: 10/4/14 - Packet received: 10/7/14
NOA 1 email + ARN assigned: 10/10/14 (hard copy 10/17/14)
Touched on website (fixed?): 12/9/14 - Poked USCIS: 4/1/15
NOA 2 email: 5/4/15 (hard copy 5/11/15)
Sent to NVC: 5/8/15 - NVC received + #'s assigned: 5/15/15 (estimated)
NVC sent: 5/19/15 - London received/ready: 5/26/15
Packet 3: 5/28/15 - Medical: 6/16/15
Poked London 7/1/15 - Packet 4: 7/2/15
Interview: 7/30/15 - Approved!
AP + Issued 8/3/15 - Visa in hand (depot): 8/6/15
POE: 8/27/15

Wedding: 9/30/15

Filed I-485, I-131, I-765: 11/7/15

Packet received: 11/9/15

NOA 1 txt/email: 11/15/15 - NOA 1 hardcopy: 11/19/15

Bio: 12/9/15

EAD + AP approved: 1/25/16 - EAD received: 2/1/16

RFE for USCIS inability to read vax instructions: 5/21/16 (no e-notification & not sent from local office!)

RFE response sent: 6/7/16 - RFE response received 6/9/16

AOS approved/card in production: 6/13/16  

NOA 2 hardcopy + card sent 6/17/16

Green Card received: 6/18/16

USCIS 120 day reminder notice: 2/22/18

Filed I-751: 5/2/18 - Packet received: 5/4/18

NOA 1:  5/29/18 (12 mo) 8/13/18 (18 mo)  - Bio: 6/27/18

Transferred: Potomac Service Center 3/26/19

Approved/New Card Produced status: 4/25/19 - NOA2 hardcopy 4/29/19

10yr Green Card Received: 5/2/19 - Error will need to file I90 >_<

 

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14 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Sorry but they won't accept that. You need a real copy from the clerk.

 

We were able to go in and get ours within days of being married, and asked them for several copies as you're going to need them. Unfortunately it looks like CA takes a long time. Ever considered Vegas?

Yes we are considering it more now after what everyone has been saying.

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3 minutes ago, Cornflake said:

We got married in Beverly Hills ( kinda LA but not exactly LA) and we got our marriage certificate in 2 weeks.

When did you get married?

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We got married in L.A. county too and back then (2016) it was supposed to take 8 weeks according to the Norwalk county clerks office (the office that records the marriage). We were "lucky" and only had to wait 4 weeks. 

 

No reason to get married in L.A. county really. We didn't know at the time how long the recording wait was, otherwise we would've chosen another county, or even another state possibly.


K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016 (260 days)

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017 (108 days)

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017 (132 days)

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017 (217 days)

ROC: 04-22-2019 - 04-22-2020 (365 days)
Citizenship: 05-01-2020 - 03-16-2021 (320 days)

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6 hours ago, mark90 said:

It won't be accepted. You could pick up the original marriage certificates by yourself at the County Clerk's Office to speed up the procedure. 

It only speeds things up by a day or two (the time it takes to ship it). It's the recording that has a wait time of up to 8 weeks, not the marriage certificate. The marriage certificate will be available the same day the marriage has been recorded.


K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016 (260 days)

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017 (108 days)

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017 (132 days)

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017 (217 days)

ROC: 04-22-2019 - 04-22-2020 (365 days)
Citizenship: 05-01-2020 - 03-16-2021 (320 days)

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