Proving false claim to be USC

[TorontoCalifornia 2]

How would USCIS find out if someone falsely claimed to be a USC, outside  of them admitting to it? 

[NikLR 13,227]

I-9

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[aaron2020 11,651]

What did you do?

[payxibka 10,045]

4 hours ago, NikLR said:

I-9

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I9s are not submitted to the IRS and are maintained in the individual employer files only 

[TorontoCalifornia 2]

I9

[TorontoCalifornia 2]

23 minutes ago, payxibka said:

I9s are not submitted to the IRS and are maintained in the individual employer files only 

So if it was an I9 then the only way USCIS would find out would be if it was disclosed?

[Mollie09 1,543]

5 hours ago, TorontoCalifornia said:

So if it was an I9 then the only way USCIS would find out would be if it was disclosed?

If you're thinking about lying about it, know that if/when it comes up, you will be stripped of whatever immigration benefit you have received.

Material misrepresentation and lying about it will get you TWO un-waiverable bans

Edited November 8, 2019 by Mollie09

[TorontoCalifornia 2]

36 minutes ago, Mollie09 said:

If you're thinking about lying about it, know that if/when it comes up, you will be stripped of whatever immigration benefit you have received.

Material misrepresentation and lying about it will get you TWO un-waiverable bans

What’s the difference? One or two? The end result is the same, no? Or is one negotiable, but two makes it less so? 

[Mollie09 1,543]

9 minutes ago, TorontoCalifornia said:

What’s the difference? One or two? The end result is the same, no? Or is one negotiable, but two makes it less so? 

No, neither of them is negotiable. If you lied about being a US citizen to obtain a benefit (like employment) you are already banned.

[carmel34 3,639]

Lying on the I-9 could come up during the AOS process background check on you, or if not then, at a later stage of becoming a legal resident (ROC) or citizen.  Check this out for an explanation of what you are risking by claiming on a US government document that you were a US citizen but are not:

 

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-checking-citizen-national-form-i-9-can-ruin-your-chance-green-card.html

Edited November 8, 2019 by carmel34

[geowrian 22,337]

1) They would need to disclose it. Nobody is going to suggest that somebody do anything other than disclose the truth.

2) The government has the ability to check against a host of sources. The specifics don't matter due to #1.

[HRQX 4,145]

8 hours ago, TorontoCalifornia said:

So if it was an I9 then the only way USCIS would find out would be if it was disclosed?

Odds are they already know. As an example, ICE routinely does I-9 audits: https://www.ice.gov/factsheets/i9-inspection

[Moe428 129]

Seems like an odd question that is begging for trouble.  

[SalishSea 17,928]

5 minutes ago, Moe428 said:

Seems like an odd question that is begging for trouble.  

I'm sure OP is asking for a friend.

[Unlockable 7,315]

2 hours ago, TorontoCalifornia said:

What’s the difference? One or two? The end result is the same, no? Or is one negotiable, but two makes it less so? 

Even having one misrepresentation is bad. But with one, maybe you were naive, young, stupid mistake, uninformed, or careless.

 

With two it is viewed as habitual.. and that leads to being perceived as an immoral character.

 

Unless you have been missing the news regarding immigration and this current administration, being an immigrant who commits misrepresentation (and more than one for that matter) should be avoided at all cost.