Possible to go into *too much* detail?

[goldhex 21]

Me and my Fiancee have been dating for 5 years and just got engaged last week. Safe to say we have a lot of evidence of our relationship.

 

For our evidence of in-person meeting what created a word document containing details from each visit we've both taken between the UK and US to see each other since our relationship began containing photos, boarding passes, passport scans. Currently the document is 2000+ words and 20+ pages and I haven't put in the evidence for 2018 or 2019 yet.

 

My question is have I gone overboard? I'm aware this level of detail is probably unnecessary but will it be a negative to our application?

 

Cheers all!

Edited October 14, 2019 by goldhex

[payxibka 10,044]

5 minutes ago, goldhex said:

Me and my Fiancee have been dating for 5 years and just got engaged last week. Safe to say we have a lot of evidence of our relationship.

 

For our evidence of in-person meeting what created a word document containing details from each visit we've both taken between the UK and US to see each other since our relationship began containing photos, boarding passes, passport scans. Currently the document is 2000+ words and 20+ pages and I haven't put in the evidence for 2018 or 2019 yet.

 

My question is have I gone overboard? I'm aware this level of detail is probably unnecessary but will it be a negative to our application?

 

Cheers all!

Relationship evidence is an embassy interview request, not a petition requirement 

[DJClaire 134]

If this is for your K1 application, they only need to know that you meet the criteria such as you have met in person.  So yes, it sounds like overkill, but handy to keep for the interviews in the future.

[goldhex 21]

2 minutes ago, DJClaire said:

If this is for your K1 application, they only need to know that you meet the criteria such as you have met in person.  So yes, it sounds like overkill, but handy to keep for the interviews in the future.

 

9 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Relationship evidence is an embassy interview request, not a petition requirement 

 

Yeah this is part of the i-129F filing. So rather than including all this info now, would it be better to just do as much info as possible for my current visit to the US? (got boarding passes, passport stamp, i94 etc?). Thanks guys.

[Pitaya 2,576]

The requirements of the K1 visa petition are:

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You may file this petition if you are a U.S. citizen and:

1. You and your fiancé(e):

   1. Are legally free to marry and intend to marry within 90 days of your fiancé(e)’s admission to the United States; and

   2. Have met each other in person within the two years immediately before you filed this petition,

REF: https://www.uscis.gov/i-129f , Instructions

Yes, you have gone way overboard! Save your and the adjudicator's time, save the trees, and keep in mind that all they want to know about that you have met each other with the last two years, and intend to get married to your beneficiary within 90 days of their US entry. They will read you novella, but what is the point? The system is already overloaded with applications, an application with > 2000 pages of evidence will only slow down the system even more, and is unnecessary. As others have posted, don't clog up the mail system with with relationship evidence, save that for the visa interview at the London embassy. Besides if you read in the UK Regional Forum, the bar for visa approval is relatively low compared to other areas of the world. Save your novella for your coffee table and show it off to your friends .

 

Good luck on your immigration journey.

[goldhex 21]

3 minutes ago, Pitaya said:

The requirements of the K1 visa petition are:

REF: https://www.uscis.gov/i-129f , Instructions

Yes, you have gone way overboard! Save your and the adjudicator's time, save the trees, and keep in mind that all they want to know about that you have met each other with the last two years, and intend to get married to your beneficiary within 90 days of their US entry. They will read you novella, but what is the point? The system is already overloaded with applications, an application with > 2000 pages of evidence will only slow down the system even more, and is unnecessary. As others have posted, don't clog up the mail system with with relationship evidence, save that for the visa interview at the London embassy. Besides if you read in the UK Regional Forum, the bar for visa approval is relatively low compared to other areas of the world. Save your novella for your coffee table and show it off to your friends .

 

Good luck on your immigration journey.

Thanks for your reply! *20 pages not 2000 thankfully

 

I was just wanting to make clear that we do have a real relationship, but it sounds like it'll come in useful for the visa interview anyway.

[Pitaya 2,576]

Just now, goldhex said:

Thanks for your reply! *20 pages not 2000 thankfully

 

I was just wanting to make clear that we do have a real relationship, but it sounds like it'll come in useful for the visa interview anyway.

20 pages = still too many. Keep it short and sweet, i.e., from the last two years forward, make it a report, not a novella. 

[goldhex 21]

1 minute ago, Pitaya said:

20 pages = still too many. Keep it short and sweet, i.e., from the last two years forward, make it a report, not a novella. 

Ha you're right

 

Over the past 2 years I've visited 9 times, should I document all those visits or just the most recent?

[Pitaya 2,576]

3 minutes ago, goldhex said:

Ha you're right

 

Over the past 2 years I've visited 9 times, should I document all those visits or just the most recent?

Sounds like you have plenty of opportunities for evidence. Take a look at the VJ K1 Visa Guide for examples of the type of evidence you should be including.

https://www.visajourney.com/content/k1guide/

 

 

[Maria002 54]

I would suggest you make a document mentioning the range of dates of each visit   and a brief resume of the place and reason ( 1or 2 sentences per international flight). 

As for the images   scan all your passport's stamps for when you traveled (we also added the recepits of his hotel and flight tickets). And only consider detailed photos of you together for the last year (or 6 last visits)  2 photos of each place or less. 

 

Edited October 14, 2019 by Mary&Alex

[goldhex 21]

Slightly confused whether I should just go into detail on the most recent visit or not? 

[laylalex 7,249]

My experience going through London was that at the interview, they had *no* interest in looking at the evidence I had my then-fiance (now my ex) bring with him. We'd been together for five years at that point too (this was back in 2010). I don't think they looked at a single photograph at his interview, they just asked him a couple of questions about me, where I lived, what I did for a living, etc., and if he understood the requirement to marry in 90 days. It's seriously overkill for London to even bring along to the interview. While it's a nice document to have for yourself, no one at the consulate is going to want to see it!  

[goldhex 21]

14 minutes ago, laylalex said:

My experience going through London was that at the interview, they had *no* interest in looking at the evidence I had my then-fiance (now my ex) bring with him. We'd been together for five years at that point too (this was back in 2010). I don't think they looked at a single photograph at his interview, they just asked him a couple of questions about me, where I lived, what I did for a living, etc., and if he understood the requirement to marry in 90 days. It's seriously overkill for London to even bring along to the interview. While it's a nice document to have for yourself, no one at the consulate is going to want to see it!  

Ha excellent

 

In terms of the I-129F in-person meeting evidence, do you remember what you filed?

 

Thanks for your reply!

[laylalex 7,249]

50 minutes ago, goldhex said:

Ha excellent

 

In terms of the I-129F in-person meeting evidence, do you remember what you filed?

 

Thanks for your reply!

Oh gosh, forgive me if I forget some stuff because (1) it was 9 years ago and (2) I am over in the UK right now and it's after midnight (and I had a couple glasses of wine ). Well, I know we got an RFE because I forgot to put in copies of passport stamps/boarding passes, etc. showing we were in the same place at the same time, so I had to submit those later.  I put in pictures and a long statement on how we met and all the time we have been together but I think I didn't include the passport stamps or anything that what VJ people call "primary" evidence. But we fixed it in the end.  I look back on it now and think: I can't believe I got so stressed out about all of it! (I was losing my mind near the end, because I was trying to plan a wedding at the same time as all of it -- pro tip, do NOT plan a "proper" wedding to coincide with what you *think* will be a date you'll have the visa by! I was on Klonopin at one point, no joke. Okay, I can joke about it now!) 

 

I'm getting remarried in the new year to another person (from Scotland) but he is over in the US already on an L1 visa so we are just doing AOS. I have promised myself I will pay attention to detail but not go insane like last time. You can do this!!! London is one of the most straightforward consulates out there. I think the best bits of advice I can give are pay attention to detail, and ask for help on VJ. They really do have pretty much all the answers.  

[SalishSea 16,800]

2 hours ago, goldhex said:

Slightly confused whether I should just go into detail on the most recent visit or not? 

No details are required.  We went through a similar consulate to London, and had as many visits as you did, over a period of several years.  We really only wrote down the dates in the space provided for Q 54 (I think?), and included copies of the corresponding passport stamps.  Thats it.  No "story of how we met," snapshots, "evidence of ongoing relationship," etc.   None of that is needed, or useful, for low fraud countries.

 

Adding things not required or requested at the petition stage just makes it take longer for them to adjudicate it.