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You Can Now Be Fined Up To $250,000 If You Call Someone An ‘Illegal Alien’ In New York City

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16 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

things have gone nuts in this country. The leftist agenda has gone off the rails 

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So who determines the intent?


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3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So who determines the intent?

Peoples Courts


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  I've made it this far in life without calling someone an illegal alien, so I don't think this law would really affect me. I don't see the point of doing that anyway. What is my criteria for calling someone an illegal alien. They speak with an accent? They are a different color? How the hell do i know if someone is illegal? If they are, what does me calling them out do. Are they going to start walking home?

 

   Seriously, if I suspect something illegal, I have the phone number for ICE right there at the bottom of the page. That's all I need to do. Some people make life too complicated.


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14 hours ago, Boiler said:

Peoples Courts

In the People's Republic of Ciudad de Nueva York.


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7 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  I've made it this far in life without calling someone an illegal alien, so I don't think this law would really affect me. I don't see the point of doing that anyway. What is my criteria for calling someone an illegal alien. They speak with an accent? They are a different color? How the hell do i know if someone is illegal? If they are, what does me calling them out do. Are they going to start walking home?

 

   Seriously, if I suspect something illegal, I have the phone number for ICE right there at the bottom of the page. That's all I need to do. Some people make life too complicated.

So no issues with a government limiting free speech?  Sure, there is always the "Fire" "Theatre" example, but when two words legally identify someone, how can that be limited?


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6 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    You should already know that not all speech is protected by the first amendment. 

How does this compare to that speech which is limited due to the potential for causing harm?


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Posted (edited)

Do we get fined if we just call them "illegals"?

 

Maybe we just use another snappy term like fence jumpers, or boarder hoppers.

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5 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Blows my mind. Would calling someone a bank robber be offensive if they are a bank robber. 

 

    No, but it would be defamation if they were not a bank robber. Defamation is not protected by the first amendment by the way.


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