Beto O'Rourke says women should be able to choose abortion even the day before birth

[laylalex 7,247]

3 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

If the child turned out to be mine (you can absolutely bet there would be a DNA exam) I would of course ensure the child was cared for.

 

Pre-nup. And you say you wouldn't accept it, but I have found that everyone has their price.

Got it. So basically you would have her roll the dice.

 

I agree that a pre-nup is the way to go. I wouldn't have been living my sweet sweet alimony lifestyle if it wasn't for the one my dad convinced me to sign! I even get free Netflix, although that wasn't in the pre-nup. 

[Boris Farage 353]

Just now, laylalex said:

Got it. So basically you would have her roll the dice.

Didn't she already roll the dice? Wasn't it her choice to roll the dice? Why am I the monster here?

[laylalex 7,247]

1 minute ago, Boris Farage said:

Didn't she already roll the dice? Wasn't it her choice to roll the dice? Why am I the monster here?

I'm sorry, I shouldn't make light of this. You went through something really tough, and I can imagine why you'd want to avoid it in the future. I'm sorry.  

 

To be completely transparent, I was once in a similar position to your ex-wife, long before I got married. I had been broken up with a man for a while, didn't think we would get back together at all. He had betrayed my trust. I had a one night stand, I thought I was being careful, but I wasn't enough. And the man I had broken up with came back into my life very shortly afterwards, and I forgave him. We were young idiots. I didn't want to put him in a position where he wouldn't know whether he was the father or not. I took what I believed to be the best decision I could make at the time. One of them knows now, though I'm not sure how (and we have never discussed it), and one of them does not. It was a very tough decision and I was on my own when I made it. I don't regret it. 

 

I'm not asking for anyone to approve what I did, or for sympathy. I expect I will get some blowback for this, but at the time it made sense. I was able to get on with my life, get married and move past it. I am at peace with this decision. I wasn't ready to be a mom, and I didn't want either of these men to feel responsible for what were two mess ups, one which was a fluke, and one which should have been prevented.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 hours ago, Boris Farage said:

Let us go back to the general rule: if for whatever reason you cannot endure or follow through with a pregnancy, then do not get pregnant. It's the twenty first century, unwanted pregnancies should (if women would follow this rule) be extremely rare in this country now. You should never have to discuss an abortion with your fiance or husband or boyfriend or whatever, because pregnancy should not happen unless you want it to.

 

I don't usually share this much detail of my own life, but I believe it apropos to the topic. Without going into too much detail, my ex had an abortion without my knowledge. Given what eventually came to light regarding her behavior, I do not know if the child was mine. But I ruminate over it frequently. I might very well have been a father. I might very well BE a father... to a murdered child. It haunts me, if I'm being honest. So to the women who say "my body, my rules," you have either not thought this through, or you are completely dishonest and selfish. The life may live within you, but it is not yours to do with as you please.

 

@laylalex if you are unsure about motherhood, then you already have your answer already in that certainty. Have the surgery, be done with it.

It sux that the abortion happened without your knowledge.  I think that is unfair.

 

But to say it "haunts" you?? Come on dude.  You're a man, you know what it takes to make another one.  Find the right partner and make one if that's what you want.  It's not like your ex having an abortion means you lost your last chance to father a child.  Time to move on...

[Ban Hammer 12,839]

12 hours ago, Boris Farage said:

Didn't she already roll the dice? Wasn't it her choice to roll the dice? Why am I the monster here?

well, you are at the end of the dungeon and you won the initiative roll........

[Boris Farage 353]

12 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

It sux that the abortion happened without your knowledge.  I think that is unfair.

 

But to say it "haunts" you?? Come on dude.  You're a man, you know what it takes to make another one.  Find the right partner and make one if that's what you want.  It's not like your ex having an abortion means you lost your last chance to father a child.  Time to move on...

Yes, I completely get that, and it's the same advice I would give somebody else in my shoes. But this isn't a puppy we're talking about, it's hard to move on from the possibility.

 

In any case though, yes I have moved on, but also have occasion to ruminate. If all goes according to plan, there could be a little Boris tottering around in only a few years from now.

[Boris Farage 353]

15 hours ago, laylalex said:

I had a one night stand, I thought I was being careful, but I wasn't enough. And the man I had broken up with came back into my life very shortly afterwards, and I forgave him.

YOU forgave HIM? Well that was jolly nice of you.

[laylalex 7,247]

37 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

YOU forgave HIM? Well that was jolly nice of you.

Well, you don't know the specifics of it, and I will spare you the details, but he basically humiliated me online for the sake of making himself look better with his online friends. He posted a selfie I sent him for his eyes only, nothing explicit but it was kind of sexy. He also posted some text with it that made me sound like my only redeeming quality how I looked. A mutual friend sent me a link and everything just blew up. I told him we were over and we WERE over, I moved on, but he came back into my life begging for forgiveness. He'd changed, he knew it was wrong, etc. I felt bad for him, so I forgave him. Just the timing was off in terms of when he showed up unannounced and asking to get back together. It was a difficult situation to be in, it's not like I've got loose morals or anything, it's something that happened. Going ahead with terminating was the best thing I could do for both of these men. 

 

I sincerely hope, @Boris Farage, that you do have a little Boris running around soon. We've spoken separately about this, I know your ex-wife treated you very badly. You deserve happiness and peace at last. ❤️ 

[TBoneTX 43,058]

5 hours ago, laylalex said:

You deserve happiness and peace

And to be the ancestor of a descendant.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

So, @laylalex, I cannot remember if you ever said.... do you agree with Biden on being able to abort the day prior to birth?

[Steeleballz 7,550]

15 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

So, @laylalex, I cannot remember if you ever said.... do you agree with Biden on being able to abort the day prior to birth?

 

   Did you mean Beto? If you mix them up, just remember the little catch phrase  ... dumb bum dumb bum.

[Dashinka 23,246]

18 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Did you mean Beto? If you mix them up, just remember the little catch phrase  ... dumb bum dumb bum.

@ALFKAD is having a Biden moment.

[laylalex 7,247]

15 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

So, @laylalex, I cannot remember if you ever said.... do you agree with Biden on being able to abort the day prior to birth?

 

12 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Did you mean Beto? If you mix them up, just remember the little catch phrase  ... dumb bum dumb bum.

I think he meant Beto? I missed the earlier question to me in amongst my martini-fueled protests about how my relationship is not based on bullying or coercion...  

 

Anyway, personally, I think that a woman who is in that position should be induced. If it is a healthy baby, it should be delivered, and if it is not, I would hope for palliative care for that child. That's a terrible situation to be in.  My thoughts about late term abortion have been made pretty clear here -- they are VERY rare (less than 1%) and only occur where there is significant risk to the health of the woman or the fetus. These aren't day before scenarios. A day before scenario isn't occurring, and I can't imagine a doctor performing one. This is just a hyperbolic scenario that someone cooked up, I think.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

8 hours ago, laylalex said:

 

I think he meant Beto? I missed the earlier question to me in amongst my martini-fueled protests about how my relationship is not based on bullying or coercion...  

 

Anyway, personally, I think that a woman who is in that position should be induced. If it is a healthy baby, it should be delivered, and if it is not, I would hope for palliative care for that child. That's a terrible situation to be in.  My thoughts about late term abortion have been made pretty clear here -- they are VERY rare (less than 1%) and only occur where there is significant risk to the health of the woman or the fetus. These aren't day before scenarios. A day before scenario isn't occurring, and I can't imagine a doctor performing one. This is just a hyperbolic scenario that someone cooked up, I think.

Tomato/potato

Buden/Beto... both are dumb bums

 

Doesn't matter how rare the occurrence is.  Do you agree with Beto's claim that he will support abortion up until the moment of birth?  I guess what I'm trying to ascertain is... how late into a pregnancy do you think abortions should be performed?  Not talking about sick babies or at-risk mothers here.  Just choosing abortion as a means of birth control.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]