Confused IR1

[pushbrk 12,134]

23 minutes ago, Mike E said:

What is the penalty for filing late or not filing when nothing is owed?

No penalty.  Just like there's no penalty for filing single when married.  No penalty for overpayment of taxes.

 

The context here is US immigration and the affidavit of support.  THE OP.....MUST....either file or indicate they were not required to and why.

[Mike E 11,723]

6 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

No penalty.  Just like there's no penalty for filing single when married.  No penalty for overpayment of taxes.

 

The context here is US immigration and the affidavit of support.  THE OP.....MUST....either file or indicate they were not required to and why.

I don’t disagree.  That isn’t what I said. 

 

I wrote: Aside from  requirements for immigration    petitions  USA citizens aren’t required to file tax returns unless they owe taxes.  

 

i stand by my comment.  

 

Good day and so long.  

[pushbrk 12,134]

3 minutes ago, Mike E said:

I don’t disagree.  That isn’t what I said. 

 

I wrote: Aside from  requirements for immigration    petitions  USA citizens aren’t required to file tax returns unless they owe taxes.  

 

i stand by my comment.  

 

Good day and so long.  

That's not all you said.  You also wrote, "Give the foreign earned income exclusion is about $100K, based on your posts you are fine."

 

The foreign income exclusion may mean she doesn't owe taxes but it does not mean she was not required to file.  We...don't know if she was or not.

[nastra30 1,992]

5 hours ago, Mike E said:

Aside from  requirements for immigration    petitions  USA citizens aren’t required to file tax returns unless they owe taxes.  Give the foreign earned income exclusion is about $100K, based on your posts you are fine.  

Wrong. They are still required to file their taxes but they won't owe any taxes unless it's excess of 100K. But they are still required to file.

[nastra30 1,992]

3 hours ago, Mike E said:

I don’t disagree.  That isn’t what I said. 

 

I wrote: Aside from  requirements for immigration    petitions  USA citizens aren’t required to file tax returns unless they owe taxes.  

 

i stand by my comment.  

 

Good day and so long.  

You can stand by it but you are wrong nonetheless.

[payxibka 10,044]

8 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

Manila accepts co-sponsors?

For spousal 

[Mike E 11,723]

2 hours ago, nastra30 said:

You can stand by it but you are wrong nonetheless.

I will. I am not. And thus information is easy to find. 

 

Good day and so long.  

Edited May 16, 2019 by Mike E

[John & Rose 7,237]

51 minutes ago, Mike E said:

I will. I am not. And thus information is easy to find. 

 

Good day and so long.  

Yes, you are wrong and yes, the information is easy to find.  Maybe you have to re-read it since it isn't really up for interpretation.  Most government lingo is literal.  

[payxibka 10,044]

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

I will. I am not. And thus information is easy to find. 

 

Good day and so long.  

Might I suggest you review Publication 54 and report back your findings 

[Mike E 11,723]

1 hour ago, John & Rose said:

Yes, you are wrong and yes, the information is easy to find.  Maybe you have to re-read it since it isn't really up for interpretation.  Most government lingo is literal.  

https://apps.irs.gov/app/vita/content/globalmedia/teacher/chart_a_b_c_d_4012.pdf

 

you are wrong. Good day and so long. 

[nastra30 1,992]

8 minutes ago, Mike E said:

https://apps.irs.gov/app/vita/content/globalmedia/teacher/chart_a_b_c_d_4012.pdf

 

you are wrong. Good day and so long. 

Of course everybody on this thread knows that if your income is less than a certain threshold you are not required to file your taxes; that's a no brainier. But you were insinuating that if you make above the threshold and you don't owe taxes you are also not required to file your taxes, and my friend that is not correct. 

[John & Rose 7,237]

58 minutes ago, Mike E said:

https://apps.irs.gov/app/vita/content/globalmedia/teacher/chart_a_b_c_d_4012.pdf

 

you are wrong. Good day and so long. 

So you were saying you don't owe taxes or had to file if you made less than $100,000 in foreign income but that is not true.  If you make more than $12,000 you must file.  You may not owe on the foreign income but you MUST file.

Edited May 16, 2019 by John & Rose

[SalishSea 16,804]

So for posterity’s sake, which is actually correct?

[John & Rose 7,237]

3 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

So for posterity’s sake, which is actually correct?

Anyone making over $12,000 in 2019 will have to file taxes.  You can earn up to $100,000 in foreign income without it being taxable.  It would be impossible to earn $100,000 in foreign income and not file taxes because you don't make $12,000.  So over $12,000 is required to file whether those US$ are from domestic or foreign sources.  The tax liability may be different but you are required to file.

[Ryan H 3,791]

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