PELOSI SAYS SHE PERSONALLY SUPPORTS LOWERING THE VOTING AGE TO 16

[Steeleballz 7,550]

50 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

So to you, 65% of Americans are a "tiny elite"?

 

And let's not forget that it was YOUR party who promoted slavery and fought so hard to keep it going.

 

Which has NOTHING to do with the stupidity of age 16 voting, BTW.

 

    That is an asinine comment. No different from the people who say it was YOUR ancestors. 

[Póg mo 1,749]

P.s. I wasn't around back when slavery was a thing, but some of people here, kind of the give the impression that they were, just going by their old fashioned views.

 

P.p.s. the Democratic party of the 19th century is significantly different from the 21st century version. Same goes for the party of Lincoln. 

[Dashinka 23,247]

7 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

P.s. I wasn't around back when slavery was a thing, but some of people here, kind of the give the impression that they were, just going by their old fashioned views.

 

P.p.s. the Democratic party of the 19th century is significantly different from the 21st century version. Same goes for the party of Lincoln. 

The Democrat Party is way different than it was in the time of JFK.

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17 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

He said land owners, not home owners. Yes, home owners obviously do typically own the land their home is built on, but usually when people refer to land ownership, they are referring to farm land. 

At any rate, I can't fathom why anyone would be in favor of the disenfranchisement of a significant portion of the population. 

I own several pieces of Property, not one is a farm . That concept is absurd 

[Crazy Cat 39,261]

21 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

At any rate, I can't fathom why anyone would be in favor of the disenfranchisement of a significant portion of the population. 

Are you in favor of illegal immigrants having the right to vote?  young Teenagers?

[spookyturtle 9,465]

24 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

The Democrat Party is way different than it was in the time of JFK.

Yet the Republican Party is still the same as it was under Nixon. 

[Póg mo 1,749]

21 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

Yet the Republican Party is still the same as it was under Nixon. 

Totally

[Dashinka 23,247]

24 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

Yet the Republican Party is still the same as it was under Nixon. 

I guess if you believe the media narratives.

[Sonea 138]

1 hour ago, Póg mo said:

P.s. I wasn't around back when slavery was a thing, but some of people here, kind of the give the impression that they were, just going by their old fashioned views.

 

P.p.s. the Democratic party of the 19th century is significantly different from the 21st century version. Same goes for the party of Lincoln. 

I'll put a twist on the landowner idea - net tax payers maybe? That would mean 16 year olds could vote if they work. 

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[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

19 minutes ago, Sonea said:

I'll put a twist on the landowner idea - net tax payers maybe? That would mean 16 year olds could vote if they work. 

But that's the thing what would go entry level jobs 19 years ago like at a job at say McDonald's is now being taken up by people trying to support a family. That's why the whole $15 an hour is becoming prominent. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Póg mo said:

He said land owners, not home owners. Yes, home owners obviously do typically own the land their home is built on, but usually when people refer to land ownership, they are referring to farm land. 

At any rate, I can't fathom why anyone would be in favor of the disenfranchisement of a significant portion of the population. 

Most of us are NOT wanting to disenfranchise people.  That's why the electoral college exists, to protect us from extremists and the co-located masses.

 

Do YOU think the people in the tiny red square should decide what the people in the blue states get?

 

 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    That is an asinine comment. No different from the people who say it was YOUR ancestors. 

Ok, I'll bite... how is it asinine?

[Póg mo 1,749]

20 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Most of us are NOT wanting to disenfranchise people.  That's why the electoral college exists, to protect us from extremists and the co-located masses.

 

Do YOU think the people in the tiny red square should decide what the people in the blue states get?

 

 

I am sorry you have lost me here. 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

23 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Ok, I'll bite... how is it asinine?

 

   There is no one left alive today from that time. Neither the Democrats or the Republicans of the 19th century are the party of anyone currently alive on this earth. Just as no one alive today has a claim to reparations for those long dead, neither is either party today responsible for the political and social injustices that occurred in the 19th century or earlier. I'll even overlook how the platforms of each party have switched completely, because it makes no difference. We are all responsible for our own actions. 

[spookyturtle 9,465]

36 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

We are all responsible for our own actions. 

 

Except if you are a Republican, then everything is someone else’s fault.