Have to give up Certificate of Naturalization when apply for Passport ??

[Leo7777 243]

I saw this posting in another thread.  Was this the experience of others.  i.e. having to give up Certificate of Naturalization when applying for passport.

 

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For those applying for a passport, just beware that even though none of the online information says so, you need a copy (as well as the original) of your naturalization certificate in order to apply for a passport. I'm feeling a little naked, because between the oath ceremony, registering the change at the social security administration and applying for a passport, I essentially have no original evidence of my citizenship or immigration status, since they took the green card at the oath ceremony, took the social security card when I updated my status, and took my certificate of naturalization when I applied for a passport. I'm glad I don't live in one of those "show-me-your-papers" states!



[USS_Voyager 1,971]

5 minutes ago, Leo7777 said:

I saw this posting in another thread.  Was this the experience of others.  i.e. having to give up Certificate of Naturalization when applying for passport.

 

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For those applying for a passport, just beware that even though none of the online information says so, you need a copy (as well as the original) of your naturalization certificate in order to apply for a passport. I'm feeling a little naked, because between the oath ceremony, registering the change at the social security administration and applying for a passport, I essentially have no original evidence of my citizenship or immigration status, since they took the green card at the oath ceremony, took the social security card when I updated my status, and took my certificate of naturalization when I applied for a passport. I'm glad I don't live in one of those "show-me-your-papers" states!



Yes, you have to send in the original of the naturalization certificate when you apply for the passport. It’s a requirement. Just make a copy of it to keep with you. You’ll be fine. I took my Oath, got out of the federal courthouse and went straight to the county recorder’s office to apply for my passport. I just took a picture of it with my phone. They’ll send it back to you. No worries.

[Leo7777 243]

6 minutes ago, USS_Voyager said:

Yes, you have to send in the original of the naturalization certificate when you apply for the passport. It’s a requirement. Just make a copy of it to keep with you. You’ll be fine. I took my Oath, got out of the federal courthouse and went straight to the county recorder’s office to apply for my passport. I just took a picture of it with my phone. They’ll send it back to you. No worries.

The worry is with no Certificate and no passport . . . there can be no international travel !!!

[dandk 72]

2 minutes ago, Leo7777 said:

The worry is with no Certificate and no passport . . . there can be no international travel !!!

Then apply expedite with your passport application. You should receive it within 2 weeks.

 

Or you can travel using your Ukrainain passport and have someone send you the US passport later to your destination in order for your to come back to US.

[gregcrs2 1,777]

19 minutes ago, Leo7777 said:

The worry is with no Certificate and no passport . . . there can be no international travel !!!

Just travel AFTER getting the US passport.

[USS_Voyager 1,971]

1 hour ago, Leo7777 said:

The worry is with no Certificate and no passport . . . there can be no international travel !!!

You just have to wait for your passport. There id expedited processing and there are same day passport offices. Of course the faster the speed, the more $$$ you have to dole out

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

1 hour ago, Leo7777 said:

The worry is with no Certificate and no passport . . . there can be no international travel !!!

Once you are a citizen you can’t exit/enter the US on a different passport anyway, with or without your naturalization certificate. You need to get the US passport to travel. Expedite.

Edited March 3, 2019 by SusieQQQ

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

1 hour ago, dandk said:

 

Or you can travel using your Ukrainain passport and have someone send you the US passport later to your destination in order for your to come back to US.

Nope.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html

 

U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States.

Edited March 3, 2019 by SusieQQQ

[robhostein 57]

So when it comes time to renew your passport, you have resend your certificate again?

[Liam2021 551]

52 minutes ago, robhostein said:

So when it comes time to renew your passport, you have resend your certificate again?

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/apply-renew-passport/renew-by-mail.html

[Leo7777 243]

2 hours ago, USS_Voyager said:

You just have to wait for your passport. There id expedited processing and there are same day passport offices. Of course the faster the speed, the more $$$ you have to dole out

less than 2-3 weeks

I have urgent international travel plans. Example: you're traveling overseas on June 22. Beginning June 1, you should schedule an appointment at a passport agency or center that is on June 8 or later. You can only go to the actual appointment within 2 weeks of international travel (or 4 weeks if you need a visa).

Expedited

Make an appointment at a passport agency or center (bring proof of travel)

 

 

There are no Passport Agency or Center within driving distance of us. 

And, you have to bring proof of travel which means buying your plane ticket before you even know if you will have Passport in time to travel.

 

Less than 4-6 weeks

(No reason needed)

Expedited

Expedite at an acceptance facility or expedite a renewal by mail

 

With this option you pay $60 extra plus up charge for quick mailing and return.

 

But notice:  This only gives you Passport before a 4-6 weeks period concludes . . . hardly anything expedited about that !!!

 

As I have bemoaned before . . . at the end of this process when things should be going very nicely . . . we are actually in worse situation travel wise than when had student visas, and first 2 year green card.

[carmel34 3,531]

50 minutes ago, Leo7777 said:

There are no Passport Agency or Center within driving distance of us. 

And, you have to bring proof of travel which means buying your plane ticket before you even know if you will have Passport in time to travel.

If you need a passport quickly, do some online research.  There are passport agencies that you can send your paperwork to via FedEx overnight, and you can get a passport in 2 days.  I've done this before from an isolated, rural location.

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

1 hour ago, Leo7777 said:

 

 

 

As I have bemoaned before . . . at the end of this process when things should be going very nicely . . . we are actually in worse situation travel wise than when had student visas, and first 2 year green card.

To be fair, in the big scheme of things this very much is a short term first world problem.

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

2 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

To be fair, in the big scheme of things this very much is a short term first world problem.

Yup. Try being from an “underdeveloped” country where it takes 8 months to receive your passport. 

 

Anyways if you need your passport expedited there are options like others have posted. I personally paid to expedite mine and actually received it in a week surprisingly. 

[discoverusa 229]

Just be aware that your new passport and certificate will arrive in a separate envelope and on different days. I first got my passport in the mail and few days after my certificate arrived. 

 

The lady at the Post Office who gathered my paperwork STAPLED my new, long awaited naturalization certificate to the application. It was a mini shock to have this long awaited and important document treated this way. Now I laugh about it 😄.