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10 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Link not available to me, but either Rush or National Review (was it Victor Davis Hanson?) said that there are now so few racists that the victims have to manufacture events to keep the victimhood story going.

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here is the article:

 

The Strange Paradoxes of Our Age

Victor Davis Hanson // National Review

Modern prophets often say one thing and do another. Worse, they often advocate in the abstract as a way of justifying their doing the opposite in the concrete.

The result is that contemporary culture abounds with the inexplicable — mostly because modern progressivism makes all sorts of race, class, and gender exceptions for politically incorrect felonies, an appeasement that ensures an absence of deterrence and thus even more transgressions.

Paradox No. 1: Merchants of Hate. We are told that white, racist young men are preying on people of color, obsessed with skin color (and gender), and emancipated by Donald Trump’s Klan-like MAGA army. In truth, the purveyors of such theories are themselves merchants of hate, who stereotype and demonize on the basis of skin color. And they do so, largely for anticipated career advantages, on the principle that supposed victims of white bigots can translate such ill treatment into publicity and, with it, attention and career enhancement. How did this epidemic of hate happen in 2019 America?

Answer: a) There are not enough racists left to fuel the current insatiable appetite of the anti-racism industry. So both victimizers and victims have to be invented — as we see with the Duke lacrosse lynching, the Virginia fraternity hoax, the Covington-kids invention, and the recent Jussie Smollett fraud. b) There are few punishments for fraud, but lots of rewards for being victimized, and so deterrence is lost and the merchants of hate assume they are free to invent what they please. c) Anything useful to destroy the presidency of Donald Trump is seen as a moral act, whether equating the Covington MAGA-hatted teenagers as veritable Klansmen or fitting out Smollett’s hired thugs with lynch rope and red hats.

 

http://victorhanson.com/

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

VJ or this case ?

The case.........there are some great satires out there......check out tree of knowledge on youtube...  that lady is funny and she hits the nail on the head........her video says "how to give Trump 4 more years in 20 easy steps"......

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36 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

here is the article:

 

The Strange Paradoxes of Our Age

Victor Davis Hanson // National Review

Modern prophets often say one thing and do another. Worse, they often advocate in the abstract as a way of justifying their doing the opposite in the concrete.

The result is that contemporary culture abounds with the inexplicable — mostly because modern progressivism makes all sorts of race, class, and gender exceptions for politically incorrect felonies, an appeasement that ensures an absence of deterrence and thus even more transgressions.

Paradox No. 1: Merchants of Hate. We are told that white, racist young men are preying on people of color, obsessed with skin color (and gender), and emancipated by Donald Trump’s Klan-like MAGA army. In truth, the purveyors of such theories are themselves merchants of hate, who stereotype and demonize on the basis of skin color. And they do so, largely for anticipated career advantages, on the principle that supposed victims of white bigots can translate such ill treatment into publicity and, with it, attention and career enhancement. How did this epidemic of hate happen in 2019 America?

Answer: a) There are not enough racists left to fuel the current insatiable appetite of the anti-racism industry. So both victimizers and victims have to be invented — as we see with the Duke lacrosse lynching, the Virginia fraternity hoax, the Covington-kids invention, and the recent Jussie Smollett fraud. b) There are few punishments for fraud, but lots of rewards for being victimized, and so deterrence is lost and the merchants of hate assume they are free to invent what they please. c) Anything useful to destroy the presidency of Donald Trump is seen as a moral act, whether equating the Covington MAGA-hatted teenagers as veritable Klansmen or fitting out Smollett’s hired thugs with lynch rope and red hats.

 

http://victorhanson.com/

So an opinion piece with no facts to back up such a claim.

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10 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

i was merely presenting the article referenced for clarity, I spoke not for or against it. 

I know of course, it's just... it bothers me when opinion pieces are highlighted as if they offer some weight of facts, you know? Not saying you're doing it here, but I've seen it done a lot these days in general observation.

 

There are still some aspects of this case that don't make a lot of sense. We don't have a rash of actors doing stunts like this in an attempt to make themselves more money. The guy has got money, and a decent amount of fame. And he was so stupid at the whole thing with a huge evidence trail, that I don't know how he didn't expect to be caught in the first place. There are some other weird factors going on here: like the DA recusing themselves... and I think I read one of the brothers may have been up for attempted murder at some point (how was he still going back and forth into the country?). He's got Geragos now. Expect he'll try an insanity plea.

 

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Smollett paid the brothers with a check..........insane is correct.

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4 hours ago, yuna628 said:

I find that assertion to be patently false. Racists and plenty of true racist or hate crime motivated attacks or plots certainly exist.

 

Jussie is a complete idiot liar, but that doesn't mean other attacks aren't more or less valid.

Is this something you have witnessed in person, or are you just referring to what you read in the news?

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2 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Is this something you have witnessed in person, or are you just referring to what you read in the news?

 

Certainly a disturbing trend 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jussie-smolletts-alleged-hate-crime-hoax-sheds-light-on-similar-phony-accusations

Jussie Smollett's alleged hate crime hoax sheds light on similar phony accusations

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