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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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Asking for a friend on our group: her fiancé is from Egypt, like mine. They are engaged as well. She visited him 2 times and the second time she became pregnant, because he is from a middle eastern country will this look bad at his interview? Should he not report it to the consular? I’ve advised her to just tell them, it might help their case but I’d like to know if anyone else has had this experience. 

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8 minutes ago, Fa Ri Da said:

Asking for a friend on our group: her fiancé is from Egypt, like mine. They are engaged as well. She visited him 2 times and the second time she became pregnant, because he is from a middle eastern country will this look bad at his interview? Should he not report it to the consular? I’ve advised her to just tell them, it might help their case but I’d like to know if anyone else has had this experience. 

Honestly I do not think it will be considered a positive.  It actually could be negative, as the consular could think that he got her pregnant on purpose just to get the visa.

YMMV

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Netherlands
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5 minutes ago, Fa Ri Da said:

Asking for a friend on our group: her fiancé is from Egypt, like mine. They are engaged as well. She visited him 2 times and the second time she became pregnant, because he is from a middle eastern country will this look bad at his interview? Should he not report it to the consular? I’ve advised her to just tell them, it might help their case but I’d like to know if anyone else has had this experience. 

No matter if it's positive or negative, lying is a big no no. If they find out she lied, even after they granted the visa, they can make the choice of revoking her status and deporting her. So if they ask, she should answer the question honestly. Pregnancies happen, it's not a valid reason to provide a visa if the consular doesn't trust their relationship is real.

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30 minutes ago, Fa Ri Da said:

Asking for a friend on our group: her fiancé is from Egypt, like mine. They are engaged as well. She visited him 2 times and the second time she became pregnant, because he is from a middle eastern country will this look bad at his interview? Should he not report it to the consular? I’ve advised her to just tell them, it might help their case but I’d like to know if anyone else has had this experience. 

No one can say for sure if it will be a problem as each embassy is different. I would not volunteer the information but if asked it's ALWAYS the right thing to do is confirm it. Being truthful is the best policy to follow.

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Thinking that apregnancy will “help” a case is always flawed. A genuine relationship involves more than that. 

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he is the middle easterner not her

will the baby be born by time of his interview?

it is against cultural norms for Egypt but not for the USC but the Egyptian family may not be in favor of this marriage 

and that question is often asked

so much will depend on if she has to include the child on the application and support order

and if asked he has to answer honestly 

but it would be so much better if she were to return and marry (if not too far along) but again the family may not support the marriage and can even disallow it (i believe but could be wrong as this happened to a Boston girl who went to morocco and got pregnant and the mother said no to the marriage)

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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Her fiancé is from Egypt, she ( the petitioner) is pregnant, I haven’t asked her if his family knows yet. Although I would understand the family not accepting it. I visited one time, stayed in an air bnb and spent all day with my fiancé, his family or did day trips with him and his friends. I’m surprised they were able to spend that time alone even when we were at his house we made sure his aunt, mother or sister were with us. Also, I didn’t mean it would “help” their case with her being pregnant, I meant being honest about her pregnancy, it’s definitely going to be a tough situation for her if he doesn’t get approved. 

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Shouldn't be an issue for the interview.  But it will increase the household size by one and hopefully she has maternity leave as he is not going to be able to work for a long time.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Morocco
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26 minutes ago, Fa Ri Da said:

Her fiancé is from Egypt, she ( the petitioner) is pregnant, I haven’t asked her if his family knows yet. Although I would understand the family not accepting it. I visited one time, stayed in an air bnb and spent all day with my fiancé, his family or did day trips with him and his friends. I’m surprised they were able to spend that time alone even when we were at his house we made sure his aunt, mother or sister were with us. Also, I didn’t mean it would “help” their case with her being pregnant, I meant being honest about her pregnancy, it’s definitely going to be a tough situation for her if he doesn’t get approved. 

Very tough situation 

In morocco a man who impregnants a woman can be sent to jail  for not marrying her (but those are 2 moroccans )

the moroccan mother i know of just refused to let her son marry because the woman was in her words "lazy"

the girl did not know she could have gone to the police and forced the marriage getting him kicked out of the house

 

for this man's interview,   the embassy whether interviewer is Egyptian or american ,  the Co is well aware of the cultural norms 

being pregnant or having a child "out of wedlock" does not have work for them

they need to prove "as all of us have had to do"  that they are in a real realtionship (baby only means they slept together)

they need to show the visits were many and were of quaility time with her getting to know his family/ called face time here

it is better if they are near the same age (being of child bearing age in islam is a plus)

it is better to have same religious beliefs

it is also better to have family approval 

Cairo only approved 9 K1 visas in November

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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Yes, I’m Egypt it’s the same, they must me married I order to even stay together.

 

I think the situation is too complicated for them now. I’m not sure if they share the same religious beliefs, I’m hoping for her sake they do but in highly doubt it if she’s having pre marital relations with him. They’ve spent a lot of time together according to her. I’m not sure of the  family because she’s just asked me what I thought because we both have fiancés from Egypt. I’ll let her know all of the information from here and see what she’s says. Thank you everyone 😊😊 Good luck to you all 🙂🙂

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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On 1/13/2019 at 11:30 AM, Fa Ri Da said:

Yes, I’m Egypt it’s the same, they must me married I order to even stay together.

 

I think the situation is too complicated for them now. I’m not sure if they share the same religious beliefs, I’m hoping for her sake they do but in highly doubt it if she’s having pre marital relations with him. They’ve spent a lot of time together according to her. I’m not sure of the  family because she’s just asked me what I thought because we both have fiancés from Egypt. I’ll let her know all of the information from here and see what she’s says. Thank you everyone 😊😊 Good luck to you all 🙂🙂

if they did an Orfi marriage in order to be together it will complicate things even more, as an orfi marriage all though only a religions marriage is seen to be too married for a K1 and not married enough for a CR1.

 

So this raises the bigger question, did they do an orfi marriage in order to get around the rules in Egypt in order to be together personally for the pregnancy to occur.

 

if the CO finds out about the pregnancy, and asks them if they were religiously married, the answer should be YES however, if they answer NO, they are in even bigger deep water.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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This exact situation happened to me and my fiancé just got approved for his K1 visa. I think the pregnancy was a HUGE positive in the process. Message me for more information. 

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