DENIAL AFTER 7+ MONTHS?! WHAT THE HELL.

[Soonish 90]

3 minutes ago, Scandi said:

If it was me, I would send my response asap. NOID letter or not. You have nothing to lose at this point.

 

Make sure you write down every single info/name/number etc related to your case and put it first in the package you send, so they can actually pair it with your file. Don't forget ANYTHING. You might be lucky.

 

I haven't been in your situation but I have sent a random letter to the service center that handled my AOS application and they managed to add that letter to my file and the issue I had was finally resolved. 

 

So yes, it's definitely worth a try. The only thing you have to lose at this point is the shipping cost of your response.

 

EDIT: also make sure to have an extra copy of whatever you send them, if the NOID actually shows up in your mailbox on Thursday you can send another response, that time including the NOID letter/sheet.

OK, we can do that.

 

So just to check:

 

Evidence = 

 

Flight tickets/itineraries, 

Passport stamps,

Numerous photos from the past two years,

Letters of intent,

Screen-shots of chats,

A cover letter?

 

 

 

[Unidentified 2,930]

2 hours ago, ALGS said:

I really thought all that evidence was what they wanted at the embassy element of the process.  

A lot of embassies doesn't look at anything brought to the embassy other than fiance's financial stuff if they ask for it. They've already made a decision before you even arrived there. 

[usmsbow 796]

1 hour ago, Mr.Bob said:

Why didn’t you include any photos especially for a K1? No offense but like the USCIS, I smell something fishy as well.

 

Because they're not required except for passport photos. Those are the only ones we sent in with our application. Didn't receive a RFE, and got approved w/no problems. Provided plenty of photos at the interview stage though... 

 

Anyway, OP, I wouldn't be surprised if the info you got over the phone was wrong. My experience with Tier 2 people was I'd get a different answer every time I called them. Not an exaggeration. As someone else said, it is the misinformation line. Have you called back? I would, just to confirm. 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2018 by usmsbow

[Unidentified 2,930]

4 minutes ago, usmsbow said:

 

Because they're not required except for passport photos. Those are the only ones we sent in with our application. Didn't receive a RFE, and got approved w/no problems. Provided plenty of photos at the interview stage though... 

 

 

What DID you send in as proof of meeting?

[usmsbow 796]

5 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

What DID you send in as proof of meeting?

 

I followed the I-129f instructions. Sent copies of boarding passes and passport stamps.  I wasn't aware of VJ at the time, and the I-129f instructions didn't say photos (other than the 2 passport photos) were necessary. 

 

edit: made 2nd sentence clearer. 

Edited August 1, 2018 by usmsbow

[Soonish 90]

3 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

What DID you send in as proof of meeting?

 As I have stated... we just sent a statement.

 

 And as @usmsbow stated above some people only submit a passport photo and not tons of evidence and then provide at the embassy, like we thought we would. Anyhoo, what is done is done! We will get the evidence ready and send it all express delivery in the morning and hope to counter the NOID if it exists.

[Unidentified 2,930]

12 minutes ago, ALGS said:

 As I have stated... we just sent a statement.

 

 And as @usmsbow stated above some people only submit a passport photo and not tons of evidence and then provide at the embassy, like we thought we would. Anyhoo, what is done is done! We will get the evidence ready and send it all express delivery in the morning and hope to counter the NOID if it exists.

I was asking usmsbow what they sent in. Passport photos are not evidence of meeting. Even usmsbow sent in more than that. They had boarding passes and passport stamps. THAT's evidence.

 

Yes, what done is done. Make sure to have plenty of evidence next time. 

Edited August 1, 2018 by Unidentified

[Scandi 3,979]

1 hour ago, ALGS said:

OK, we can do that.

 

So just to check:

 

Evidence = 

 

Flight tickets/itineraries, 

Passport stamps,

Numerous photos from the past two years,

Letters of intent,

Screen-shots of chats,

A cover letter?

 

 

 

A cover letter isn't a requirement but a recommendation. It's always good to have a cover letter, and especially in your case you will want your response to look as good as possible.

 

Don't forget to also add an explanation as to what your response is all about and request it to be added to your file. With USCIS it's always a good thing to explain every single thing, to make it very obvious.

 

You can also add a copy of your NOA1.

Edited August 1, 2018 by Scandi

[dazed'nconfused 14]

7 hours ago, ALGS said:

 

edit: nevermind, my computer finally loaded the rest of the pages showing the answer to this.

 

Edited August 1, 2018 by dazed'nconfused

[Soonish 90]

3 hours ago, Unidentified said:

I was asking usmsbow what they sent in. Passport photos are not evidence of meeting. Even usmsbow sent in more than that. They had boarding passes and passport stamps. THAT's evidence.

 

Yes, what done is done. Make sure to have plenty of evidence next time. 

Oh yea, I just noticed you weren't asking me. Sorry, a force of habit! haha! 

[Little_Vixen 1,869]

4 hours ago, ALGS said:

And as @usmsbow stated above some people only submit a passport photo and not tons of evidence and then provide at the embassy, like we thought we would. Anyhoo, what is done is done! We will get the evidence ready and send it all express delivery in the morning and hope to counter the NOID if it exists.

There's no 'clear' instructions to what exactly needs to be sent in as evidence cause it can differ from case to case as not everyone keeps boarding passes or might have their passport renewed. It's up to the petitioner to find proof of having met. Any proof. And with everything in life some go for simplicity and send in the bare minimum, others overdo things and send 50 pages of photo's. I think in your case we found the bare minimum that does not qualify as proof anymore. I'm really sorry.

Good news is, if you get an NOID that will not be a direct denial, just an intend to deny unless you can come up with additional evidence. I read you have all proof lined up, that's perfect. Send it back asap and fix your mistake. I do hope the letter will reach you in time.

And I agree with above posters, USCIS (mis)information line sucks. I totally see them confusing an NOID (which is really just a very very serious RFE) with a flat out denial. So just stay calm. Wait for the letter. Don't panic.

[Soonish 90]

11 minutes ago, Little_Vixen said:

There's no 'clear' instructions to what exactly needs to be sent in as evidence cause it can differ from case to case as not everyone keeps boarding passes or might have their passport renewed. It's up to the petitioner to find proof of having met. Any proof. And with everything in life some go for simplicity and send in the bare minimum, others overdo things and send 50 pages of photo's. I think in your case we found the bare minimum that does not qualify as proof anymore. I'm really sorry.

Good news is, if you get an NOID that will not be a direct denial, just an intend to deny unless you can come up with additional evidence. I read you have all proof lined up, that's perfect. Send it back asap and fix your mistake. I do hope the letter will reach you in time.

And I agree with above posters, USCIS (mis)information line sucks. I totally see them confusing an NOID (which is really just a very very serious RFE) with a flat out denial. So just stay calm. Wait for the letter. Don't panic.

Thanks, and yes I think we, unfortunately, did find that benchmark! 

 

We do have everything ready to go and as soon as my fiance gets off his night shift he will be taking it to the post office and sending it.

 

We are going to address it to one of these two:

 

U.S. Postal Service (USPS):

USCIS California Service Center
Attn: CNMI I-129 [Include nonimmigrant classification]
P.O. Box 10129
Laguna Niguel, CA 92607-1012

FedEx, UPS, and DHL deliveries:

USCIS California Service Center
Attn: CNMI I-129 [Include nonimmigrant classification]
24000 Avila Road
2nd Floor, Room 2312
Laguna Niguel, CA 92677

 

Can anyone confirm that this is the best address to send to? I am just second guessing everything now, following my previously appalling life decisions that led to this mess. 😂

 

Do you think it would be worth putting anything on the front to say; Urgent response to NOID enclosed? (I guess we don't even know that yet though)

 

Oh and PS. congratulations on your approval etc and good luck with your medical tomorrow, it is nice to see some good things happening for fellow Decemberists!  

Edited August 1, 2018 by ALGS

[JC&BS 75]

Sorry to hear of your (possible) denial. I wish that the process was at least twice as fast so that when setbacks arise they won't be so heartbreaking. Please keep us updated on your case if you are up to it.

[Soonish 90]

36 minutes ago, JC&BS said:

Sorry to hear of your (possible) denial. I wish that the process was at least twice as fast so that when setbacks arise they won't be so heartbreaking. Please keep us updated on your case if you are up to it.

 

Thank you, I do hope one day the system changes for the better and issues are dealt with as they arise, not after such a long period like you say.

 I will keep you updated. I have my fingers crossed that we can rectify this without starting over so I hope that I will be back shortly to say "panic over". Although, I am not hugely optimistic right this minute!

[NikLR 13,220]

1 hour ago, ALGS said:

Thank you, I do hope one day the system changes for the better and issues are dealt with as they arise, not after such a long period like you say.

 I will keep you updated. I have my fingers crossed that we can rectify this without starting over so I hope that I will be back shortly to say "panic over". Although, I am not hugely optimistic right this minute!

Has your fiance only called the one time?