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Filed: IR-5 Country: Vietnam
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Hi guys,

My mom has 10 years green card, she is in her 9th year now. She stay in vietnam most of the time because she has business in vietnam. She only come to the us every 2 year to get reentry permit. however, this time the reentry permit is only good for 1 year. What is my mom option. She own a house in virginia, no bank account, only state ID.

 

1. Should my mom come back to the us every 6 months to maintain green card?

2. Should my mom file 407 and get tourist visa later when she wants to visit US?

 

At the POE, the officer asked her what is the purpose of your trip? i dont know which trip they prefer to? the trip to us, or the trip to vietnam. what my mom should answer to this question. 

 

 

 

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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Your mom is supposed to be living in the US. That is what a GC is for... Sooner or later she will lose the GC for abandonment. Tell her never to sign anything CBP gives her, lest she voluntarily gives it up. Only an IJ can take it, CBP cannot UNLESS they convince her to sign a paper saying she'll give it up voluntarily.

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Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hong Kong
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She cannot come every six months and maintain her residency. 

 

A green card is for somebody who has intention to live in the US. 

 

Her travel abroad should be temporary, not permanent. 

 

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Yes, if your mom doesn't live in the US, she should give the green card away and apply for tourist visa instead.

If she keeps up what she's doing, the green card will be just taken away.

 

Seriously....

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29.11.2013 - NoA1

06.02.2014 - NoA2

01.04.2014 - Interview. 

AoS

03.2015 - AoS started.

09.2015 - Green Card received.  

RoC

24.07.2017 - NoA1.

01.08.2018 - RoC approved. 

 

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hong Kong
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Just now, Roel said:

Yes, if your mom doesn't live in the US, she should give the green card away and apply for tourist visa instead.

If she keeps up what she's doing, the green card will be just taken away.

 

Seriously....

I am also wondering, if she doesn’t want to live in the US, why does she need a green card anyway?

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Filed: IR-5 Country: Vietnam
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So can she file i 407 at vietnam consulate, and apply for tourist visa later? im just afraid that she wont get tourist visa because her previous green card

 

She has green card because she want to visit me. but now she tired of traveling to US every year.

 

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2 minutes ago, ivantran85 said:

So can she file i 407 at vietnam consulate, and apply for tourist visa later? im just afraid that she wont get tourist visa because her previous green card

 

It's better to try to officially give away green card and apply for b2 then having a visit in immigration court on your record..  I'm honestly shocked your mother was allowed to use her green card the way she does for so long...

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29.11.2013 - NoA1

06.02.2014 - NoA2

01.04.2014 - Interview. 

AoS

03.2015 - AoS started.

09.2015 - Green Card received.  

RoC

24.07.2017 - NoA1.

01.08.2018 - RoC approved. 

 

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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Asked your mom next time stay in US for 2-3 years. At that time, asked her apply for citizenship. After she got citizenship, she will be free to travel. Until then,only go back to US for a few weeks then leave to maintain her GC is not the best practices.

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2 minutes ago, H&T said:

Asked your mom next time stay in US for 2-3 years. At that time, asked her apply for citizenship. After she got citizenship, she will be free to travel. Until then,only go back to US for a few weeks then leave to maintain her GC is not the best practices.

Sounds like 4 or 5 years' stay would be needed before she could apply for citizenship.

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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Filed: IR-5 Country: Vietnam
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My mom cant stay in the us for more than 1 year. she has business back in vietnam. 

Anybody heard of file I 407 and get tourist visa approve later on?

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2 minutes ago, ivantran85 said:

My mom cant stay in the us for more than 1 year. she has business back in vietnam. 

Anybody heard of file I 407 and get tourist visa approve later on?

This happens often (basically handing back the GC is a pretty good sign of no immigrant intent) but there are no guarantees she'd get a tourist visa.

I don't understand why she got a GC in the first place if she never intended to live in the US...

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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2 minutes ago, ivantran85 said:

Anybody heard of file I 407 and get tourist visa approve later on?

People have been successful with this in the past.  

 

Your mother has been extremely lucky in the past with multiple re-entry permits being approved back-to-back.  The fact that her most recent re-entry has been approved for only 1 year should be taken as a warning that sooner or later her luck may run out.

 

 

Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, ivantran85 said:

She stay in vietnam most of the time because she has business in vietnam. She only come to the us every 2 year to get reentry permit.

Sooo.....your mom has her 10yr gc, one that others are struggling to obtain legitimately right now, but stays in Vietnam due to commercial obligations...??

 

Okay....your mom is lucky to even be granted re-entry permits the second time around IMO. A green card application is one where the applicant is asking to work and live in the US. This is why there are multiple visa types:

B1/B2 for visiting 

IR1/IR2/IR5 for spouse/relatives of US citizens

...the list goes on.

 

You mentioned that your mom does not even have a US bank account in the USA. If an officer deems that she had been out of the US for too long on too many occasions, she can be brought before a judge for questioning and given the opportunity to renounce her green card (it happened to one of my aunts) since she proves to not work or live in the US which was the intent of the the application.

 

IR-1/CR-1
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GOT MARRIED: 3-APR-2015 :wub:

HUSBAND FILED I-130: 29-MAY-2015

VISAS APPROVED: 15-JUN-2016

VISAS IN HAND; GREEN CARD FEES PAID: 21-JUN-2016

PORT OF ENTRY - FT. LAUDERDALE INTL AIRPORT: 06-AUG-2016
CONDITIONAL GREEN CARDS RECEIVED: 23-SEP-2016
 
I-751 FILER   
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FILED REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS: 25-JUN-2018
FILE SENT TO NEBRASKA SERVICE CENTER 11-MAY-2019
10-YR GREEN CARDS APPROVED 17-JUN-2019 
10-YR GREEN CARDS RECEIVED 21-JUN-2019 :dance: 

N-400 FILER
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FILED CITIZENSHIP ONLINE; RECEIVED NOA1: 8-DEC-2019
BIOMETRICS WALK-IN: 18-DEC-2019
INTERVIEW SCHEDULED: 26-OCT-2020
APPROVED/SAME DAY OATH CEREMONY: 26-OCT-2020
 
US PASSPORT
APPLICATION APPOINTMENT AT USPS (ROUTINE): 16-SEP-2021
PASSPORT APPROVED: 30-SEP-2021
PASSPORT RECEIVED: 5-OCT-2021
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1 hour ago, H&T said:

Asked your mom next time stay in US for 2-3 years. At that time, asked her apply for citizenship.

The OP's mom will have to stay of 5 years as she has been out of the US for a great length of time on multiple occasions. 3yr applicants are those who have been married for that duration to their US citizen spouse and has been residing in the US for the same length of time.

IR-1/CR-1
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GOT MARRIED: 3-APR-2015 :wub:

HUSBAND FILED I-130: 29-MAY-2015

VISAS APPROVED: 15-JUN-2016

VISAS IN HAND; GREEN CARD FEES PAID: 21-JUN-2016

PORT OF ENTRY - FT. LAUDERDALE INTL AIRPORT: 06-AUG-2016
CONDITIONAL GREEN CARDS RECEIVED: 23-SEP-2016
 
I-751 FILER   
Spoiler
FILED REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS: 25-JUN-2018
FILE SENT TO NEBRASKA SERVICE CENTER 11-MAY-2019
10-YR GREEN CARDS APPROVED 17-JUN-2019 
10-YR GREEN CARDS RECEIVED 21-JUN-2019 :dance: 

N-400 FILER
Spoiler
FILED CITIZENSHIP ONLINE; RECEIVED NOA1: 8-DEC-2019
BIOMETRICS WALK-IN: 18-DEC-2019
INTERVIEW SCHEDULED: 26-OCT-2020
APPROVED/SAME DAY OATH CEREMONY: 26-OCT-2020
 
US PASSPORT
APPLICATION APPOINTMENT AT USPS (ROUTINE): 16-SEP-2021
PASSPORT APPROVED: 30-SEP-2021
PASSPORT RECEIVED: 5-OCT-2021
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