A Billionaire and a Nurse Shouldn't Pay the Same Fine for Speeding...

[OriZ 3,157]

4 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Oh dear lord, I agree with Oriz. Yeah, terrible drivers in my experience, often drive at or below the speed limit.

Haha, spot on.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

41 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

      That doesn't sound so good for NB.

Why? He’s in the breakdown lane.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

1 hour ago, OriZ said:

Over here you know your amount as soon as you're pulled over.

 

Damn, man...in VT if you're done in a restaurant at under $70 you know you did it cheaply.

 

 

I wonder how people feel about the illegal aliens that are now allowed to drive in some states, speeding and getting into accidents. Should they not pay at all?

 

 

Since they are illegal and just trying to better themselves, they should be able to drive unregistered, uninsured and unlicensed. And no fines if caught. 

 

In MA you always knew what the fine was when handed the ticket. I don’t know if that has changed recently or not, I doubt if it has. 

 

Under $70 for 2? That would depend where one was eating. 

[Dashinka 23,332]

1 hour ago, Póg mo said:

Oh dear lord, I agree with Oriz. Yeah, terrible drivers in my experience, often drive at or below the speed limit.

The biggest problem in America.  Left lane drivers who do not get over after overtaking.

 

[OriZ 3,157]

8 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

The biggest problem in America.  Left lane drivers who do not get over after overtaking.

 

There are a few roads here that I have deemed "purgatory". Speed limit is 40, you drive in the right lane you're behind cars going 30. You try to pass on the left lane you're behind cars passing at 35. Either way you're screwed.

[OriZ 3,157]

34 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

Since they are illegal and just trying to better themselves, they should be able to drive unregistered, uninsured and unlicensed. And no fines if caught. 

 

In MA you always knew what the fine was when handed the ticket. I don’t know if that has changed recently or not, I doubt if it has. 

 

Under $70 for 2? That would depend where one was eating. 

Yeah I'm pretty sure it hasn't changed, wouldn't doubt it would be the same as here. Likewise for restaurants lol, only Boston would actually be a bit more expensive. I don't know, even places just serving mac n cheese and stuff like that here you'd usually go over $70 for two.

[Dashinka 23,332]

3 minutes ago, OriZ said:

There are a few roads here that I have deemed "purgatory". Speed limit is 40, you drive in the right lane you're behind cars going 30. You try to pass on the left lane you're behind cars passing at 35. Either way you're screwed.

In Michigan, I have started seeing signs saying the Left Lane is for Passing Only.

[OriZ 3,157]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

In Michigan, I have started seeing signs saying the Left Lane is for Passing Only.

That's technically how it's supposed to be. In fact, in Israel it's the law and you get pulled over (well you're supposed to but then again, they're concentrated more on speed there too) if you actually drive and not just pass on the left. If you're a slow driver, get the hell out of the way, you don't need to use the left lane only because you're turning left in 30 miles. Learn how to change lanes properly and on time.

[Póg mo 1,749]

36 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

The biggest problem in America.  Left lane drivers who do not get over after overtaking.

 

Yup, hate those too, though my personal favorite is here in Minnesota during near white out conditions and drivers refuse to switch on their headlights. God forbid they might be visible to other drivers.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

3 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Yup, hate those too, though my personal favorite is here in Minnesota during near white out conditions and drivers refuse to switch on their headlights. God forbid they might be visible to other drivers.

Same happens here too. They must have a death wish. Or the idiots snow blowing there drivings at night but standing in the middle of the road on a curve.

[bcking 3,157]

2 hours ago, OriZ said:

I completely disagree with you. I think there's already way too much emphasis on speeding as it is, just because it is such an easy revenue generator, instead of concentrating on what actually causes accidents - which isn't aggressive people speeding, but rather clueless idiots doing idiotic things, like switching lanes without looking or making sure there's enough room, or many other violations that to me are alot worse than speeding. Speeding might make it more lethal if and when it happens, but to me that's not a reason to not try to prevent it to start with. It is not the speeders causing most of the accidents, in my perecption they are usually better drivers than some of the ones out there who do cause accidents via their violations because they have no business being on the roads. I hate speed cameras and think they should be illegal, and in many countries they have realized that they don't improve safety, but at times actually worsen it, and in many places they are actually removing cameras, not adding new ones. And while technically it is "illegal", there are many illegal things that many people do in their daily lives, such as illegal downloading of games or movies, weed, etc. I see speeding as no different, especially when there are areas or states with different speeds. For example here I'd be an extreme speeder, because I believe the limits in this state are way too low, should probably be about 50% higher. I like the speed limits in Texas alot better, so I probably wouldn't be a speeder there. It varies greatly.

I tend to separate speeding (and most aspects of driving) into highway and off highway.

 

I have less of an issue with speeding (on its own) on the high way. I think in the perfect world if we everyone was responsible and followed every OTHER safe driving practice, going 100 mph could be safe. As long as we all followed with a safe distance, we didn't enter a lane and break that safe distance, we had order to which lanes were for which speeds etc... I agree that on its own speeding isn't that dangerous on a highway. However the reality is speeding is not in isolation. Even if you are a perfectly excellent driver, that doesn't mean other people are. You may break no other rules but if you are speeding and someone else is an idiot, that significant impacts your ability to avoid a collision and if there is a collision, it will be at higher speeds. Yes it wouldn't be "your fault" necessarily, but honestly I care more about the risk and loss of life in a situation like that then placing blame. 

 

Off highway I think is slightly different. I think speeding is inherently, on it's own, risky. With traffic lights, more intersections, more cars in usually fewer lanes, cars parked, pedestrians etc... I have a much lower tolerance for speeding. The guy in Switzerland, IIRC, was driving 60 in a 30 zone in a village. That is unjustifiable. There may be some large roads in towns with medians, barriers, no parking, infrequent intersections/traffic lights where maybe a faster speed would be okay, but generally speaking I think it is far more important to adhere to speed limits on roads, off the freeways. If there is a collision on a normal road the risk of involving a pedestrian is much higher, and it doesn't take much speed to kill a person. If you are going 50 and need to slam your brakes, you may end up hitting the person at 30 mph and that would be enough. If you were going 30 and slammed your breaks, even if you hit them you may be going significantly slower and they would survive. 

 

But yes - For freeways I would support more regulations and restrictions on safe driving practices over speeding. I think if we were all responsible drivers the speed limits on freeways could be increased in many places. The problem is, we aren't (as a population - I'm sure you and I both are).

[bcking 3,157]

27 minutes ago, OriZ said:

That's technically how it's supposed to be. In fact, in Israel it's the law and you get pulled over (well you're supposed to but then again, they're concentrated more on speed there too) if you actually drive and not just pass on the left. If you're a slow driver, get the hell out of the way, you don't need to use the left lane only because you're turning left in 30 miles. Learn how to change lanes properly and on time.

You can get tickets in the UK for sticking in the right lane when you aren't passing (the equivalent of our "left lane"). I think I remember seeing someone get pulled over similarly in Germany when I was there visiting my sister once.

Edited March 21, 2018 by bcking

[Dashinka 23,332]

18 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Yup, hate those too, though my personal favorite is here in Minnesota during near white out conditions and drivers refuse to switch on their headlights. God forbid they might be visible to other drivers.

That is a pain here in Michigan as well.  I think part of this is laziness and the consequences of DRLs.  The driver sees lights out front and thinks the headlights are one (and by extension the taillights), but their switch is in auto and it is still bright enough not to trigger the lights.

[TBoneTX 43,372]

The speed limits in Houston (and its 'burbs) are artificially low.

Perhaps most amazing is how often one has to go all the way over to the right lane simply to get back into the left lane.

[-Trinity- 513]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

The biggest problem in America.  Left lane drivers who do not get over after overtaking.

 

Lol, and as soon as they switch to the left lane drive faaaaaaar below the speed limit....

 

What annoys me, and for some reason there is NEVER a cop around when that happens, is drivers who drive aggressively or think its necessarily to tail gate. 
Even when you drive above the speed limit. Or drivers who cut you of instead of waiting till you pass.

And texting, or worse taking selfies while drive high speed on the freeway...

 For that reason only, i see a lot of fatal accidents happening around here.

Edited March 21, 2018 by -Trinity-