MEGATHREAD- What does a Trump Presidency mean for visas? (merged)

[Boiler 43,451]

US Passports, yes, but we are dealing with the Government.

 

Overseas Passports more difficult, especially where they can be easily bought.

[Ahmed & Amy 291]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

US Passports, yes, but we are dealing with the Government.

 

Overseas Passports more difficult, especially where they can be easily bought.

Okay, but doesn't the passport ultimately come from the US itself (I thought it was, maybe I'm wrong.)? I had lost my passport when I first arrived to Cairo and when I went to the embassy, they had me fill out the passport application and a statement saying it was lost/stolen, and then told me that it would be issued from the US and delivered to me within the month. I got it exactly a month later.

So if the embassy/consulate are printing passports, then should not the government change such decision and have it made in the US to for more security, if they are being printed outside the US??

[KierenHby 897]

5 minutes ago, Marco&Bettina said:

They should all be considered terrorism because "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians."

No argument here. But tell that to CNN\MSNBC, and Fox News\Brietbart. 

[agripa 100]

MODS:

 

I feel like we need two stickied threads about this issue : 

1. A thread to argue about the politics of the situation.
2. A thread to discuss CONCRETE VERIFIABLE facts about the coming executive orders and what impact it may have on the IR1/CR1 and K1 visa processes.

Thanks!

[Transborderwife 4,666]

4 minutes ago, agripa said:

MODS:

 

I feel like we need two stickied threads about this issue : 

1. A thread to argue about the politics of the situation.
2. A thread to discuss CONCRETE VERIFIABLE facts about the coming executive orders and what impact it may have on the IR1/CR1 and K1 visa processes.

Thanks!

Come to CEHST...a lot of the arguing politically happens there

[Boiler 43,451]

5 minutes ago, agripa said:

MODS:

 

I feel like we need two stickied threads about this issue : 

1. A thread to argue about the politics of the situation.
2. A thread to discuss CONCRETE VERIFIABLE facts about the coming executive orders and what impact it may have on the IR1/CR1 and K1 visa processes.

Thanks!

2 is not currently needed as there are no facts.

[Dutchster 1,106]

We can only speculate until the real facts are brought out. Left me wondering, someone said in a different topic that greencards are already slowed down due to Trump's immigration orders but I happen to think that is not quite the case yet - right?

[agripa 100]

The only verifiable facts we have so far are --

1. A hiring freeze that may or may not apply to the USCIS (USCIS is a part of the Department of Homeland Security; national security / public safety is one area "exempted"). Totally unclear what impact this will have on processing times.
2. A leaked draft of the executive order (which has still NOT been signed).

So it is quite hard to speculate.

[medicalguy 11]

Why are various articles under the impression that Trump can ban Iranian green card holders? I thought he is only gonna ban / revoke Visas. Is it even possible to deny entry to a permanent resident when they did not violate any laws, apart from their country of origin? 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-order-immigrants-travel_us_588a7bd4e4b0cef5cf870a7d

 

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/06/18/donald-trump-muslim-immigration-ban/86038940/

Edited January 27, 2017 by medicalguy

[Boiler 43,451]

Huffpo is for giggles, only.

[KierenHby 897]

Huffpo and Brietbart.. outliers I say. Two sides of the same coin? 

[medicalguy 11]

Is it legally even possible though? To ban a legal permanent resident (who did not violate any laws) from re-entering after a brief trip with an executive order? 

[KierenHby 897]

16 minutes ago, medicalguy said:

Is it even possible to deny entry to a permanent resident when they did not violate any laws, apart from their country of origin? 

No!  

Not under current laws!  

But Congress could change laws!

[Ihavequestions 419]

6 hours ago, Ahmed & Amy said:

Okay, but doesn't the passport ultimately come from the US itself (I thought it was, maybe I'm wrong.)? I had lost my passport when I first arrived to Cairo and when I went to the embassy, they had me fill out the passport application and a statement saying it was lost/stolen, and then told me that it would be issued from the US and delivered to me within the month. I got it exactly a month later.

So if the embassy/consulate are printing passports, then should not the government change such decision and have it made in the US to for more security, if they are being printed outside the US??

 

Because it's not a problem within the US embassies/consulates. Fraudulent passports are a thriving industry. This article is eye-opening:  http://www.politico.eu/article/europes-fake-forged-stolen-passport-epidemic-visa-free-travel-rights. Also, not every country issues biometric passports, which emboldens the fraudulent passport industry. 

 

To stay on topic, the issue is vetting. How can the US - or any other government - properly and, more importantly, assure safety within the US border, when there's a possibility the person trying to gain entry is traveling with forged documents. 

[Penguin_ie 5,986]

***********  After feedback from members, and discussion amongst the moderation team, this thread is closed in favour of two new threads:

1. A thread to discuss possible future immigration changes the Trump administration may make, in this forum:  

 

2. A thread to discuss policies already published and how they impact our members in the Immigration News forum here: 

 

 

Please use ONLY these two threads to discuss the Trump administration's immigration policies current and future, in order to keep our other forums free from such discussion and not cluttered with political talk.