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Hello there, me and my fiancee are collecting proofs of ongoing relationship and we got a big problem. My fiancee's computer got Crash last week and we got there all our Screenshots from Skype account( unfotunately we couldnt restalish them). We had been using only our phone's Skype account which mean on computer we had only Chat logs. We have tried to roll back our Both phone's to restalish as much as we can from our history but we couldnt pass June this year. That means we have only almost 4 months of our Chat logs and first two months at the beginning because we Used different account . Now my question is how to explain to USCIS that we cant get history of two months we are not able to restalish ? Should we write a letter of explication or to bring some proofs like reciept from new hard Disk he got next week ? Pls help who can we are very devastated of the situation

PS: we had tried to acces Both parts of Skype account from other computers, ipads, phones, not working information is not there anymore. Thank you in advance.


13/02/2017    I 129F mailed to Lockbox ,TX 

15/02/2017    I 129F delivered at Lockbox,TX

16/02/2017    NOA1 received date 

19/05/2017    NOA2 notice date

06/07/2017 NVC received our case, assigned case Num

 

 

 

 

 

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Have you exchanged emails during that time?


USCIS

Married: 08/12/2016

I-130 sent: 08/16/2016

NOA1: 08/18/2016

Received email 09/19/2016 that I-130 was approved 09/17/2016.

On 09/21/2016, I-130 approval date changed to 09/19/2016.

I-130 approved: 09/19/2016

Received hard copy NOA2: 09/23/2016

Sent to NVC: 10/11/2016 No text or email from USCIS. Had to log into USCIS account to find out.

NVC

NVC Received: 10/18/2016

Case # and IIN#: 10/27/2016

Choice of Agent -DS-261: 10/27/2016

AOS Fee Invoiced: 10/29/2016

AOS Fee Paid: 10/29/2016

DS-261 reviewed over the phone: 10/31/2016

IV Fee Invoiced: 11/02/2016

IV Fee Paid: 11/02/2016

DS-260 Completed: 11/04/2016

Sent AOS & IV Package: 11/03/2016

Scan Date: 11/07/2016

RFE: 11/09/2016 (NVC wants I-864 instead of I-864EZ)

RFE Response Submittal: 11/09/2016

Case Complete by phone call: 11/10/2016

Case Complete by email: 11/18/2016

Interview Appointment letter by email: 12/01/2016

Left NVC: 12/02/2016

Embassy

Case Ready at Embassy: 12/05/2016

Case Ready and "touched" at Embassy" 12/16/2016

Medical Date: 12/21/2016 Sputum testing required so this sets us back at least a few months.

Interview Date: 01/04/2017  Interview went well.  We are in "administrative Processing" until negative Sputum Test result is received in March.  The consulate will then issue the Immigrant Visa. So there is nothing further for us to do.  We agreed to have the consulate cancel My wife's B1/B2 visa from an older passport and it was stamped "cancelled without prejudice".  We did this now so she would not have to go back to the consulate to have it done later.

Visa Issued:  03/07/2017

Visa in Hand: 03/08/2017

POE:  03/29/2017 Charlotte, NC  Processed quickly at airport (about 20 minutes with CBP) and was not even asked any questions.

Social Security Card:  Received 04/07/2017 (processed through CBP at POE)

Green Card Received:  4/19/2017

 

Removal of Conditions

File ROC (I-751):  eligible 12/29/2018

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No :( we Used 99% of te time Skype! We got just Short text like are you there? Or call me on Skype for may month on Facebook but really Short ones, we also booked our tickets in April and i mailed him birthday gift in may month i was thinking to use It as a Proof that we never stopped talking. Since February we know each other we never stopped talking not even a day and i really want to explain to the USCIS that we got a tehnic problem not a relationship one. Of course ill Tell the truth anyways but my question was which is the best way to do It? Thank you


13/02/2017    I 129F mailed to Lockbox ,TX 

15/02/2017    I 129F delivered at Lockbox,TX

16/02/2017    NOA1 received date 

19/05/2017    NOA2 notice date

06/07/2017 NVC received our case, assigned case Num

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you for your Fast answer, I hope It will work for us.


13/02/2017    I 129F mailed to Lockbox ,TX 

15/02/2017    I 129F delivered at Lockbox,TX

16/02/2017    NOA1 received date 

19/05/2017    NOA2 notice date

06/07/2017 NVC received our case, assigned case Num

 

 

 

 

 

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You really don't need to send every single chat message for your entire relationship, just a sampling here and there to show continuous conversation. Just a page or two each week is fine. For the 2 month gap simply put sheet in that states "Computer issue/system crash, unable to retrieve chat log". Then pick back up for the time period you have to finish out with.

It's really not the end of the world as chat logs are only one type of evidence. Include other forms as well such as visit proof, phone call logs, pictures...etc. You can only send what you have right? So don't stress. If you can't produce it you can't produce it. Send what you have.

Good Luck!

As stated above, just send what you have. Everything will be fine. Stop stressing out over it. Have a glass of wine or whatever it takes to keep you calm.


USCIS

Married: 08/12/2016

I-130 sent: 08/16/2016

NOA1: 08/18/2016

Received email 09/19/2016 that I-130 was approved 09/17/2016.

On 09/21/2016, I-130 approval date changed to 09/19/2016.

I-130 approved: 09/19/2016

Received hard copy NOA2: 09/23/2016

Sent to NVC: 10/11/2016 No text or email from USCIS. Had to log into USCIS account to find out.

NVC

NVC Received: 10/18/2016

Case # and IIN#: 10/27/2016

Choice of Agent -DS-261: 10/27/2016

AOS Fee Invoiced: 10/29/2016

AOS Fee Paid: 10/29/2016

DS-261 reviewed over the phone: 10/31/2016

IV Fee Invoiced: 11/02/2016

IV Fee Paid: 11/02/2016

DS-260 Completed: 11/04/2016

Sent AOS & IV Package: 11/03/2016

Scan Date: 11/07/2016

RFE: 11/09/2016 (NVC wants I-864 instead of I-864EZ)

RFE Response Submittal: 11/09/2016

Case Complete by phone call: 11/10/2016

Case Complete by email: 11/18/2016

Interview Appointment letter by email: 12/01/2016

Left NVC: 12/02/2016

Embassy

Case Ready at Embassy: 12/05/2016

Case Ready and "touched" at Embassy" 12/16/2016

Medical Date: 12/21/2016 Sputum testing required so this sets us back at least a few months.

Interview Date: 01/04/2017  Interview went well.  We are in "administrative Processing" until negative Sputum Test result is received in March.  The consulate will then issue the Immigrant Visa. So there is nothing further for us to do.  We agreed to have the consulate cancel My wife's B1/B2 visa from an older passport and it was stamped "cancelled without prejudice".  We did this now so she would not have to go back to the consulate to have it done later.

Visa Issued:  03/07/2017

Visa in Hand: 03/08/2017

POE:  03/29/2017 Charlotte, NC  Processed quickly at airport (about 20 minutes with CBP) and was not even asked any questions.

Social Security Card:  Received 04/07/2017 (processed through CBP at POE)

Green Card Received:  4/19/2017

 

Removal of Conditions

File ROC (I-751):  eligible 12/29/2018

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i think you should not worry too much about USCIS. they manly focus on the proof of when you met in person within the last 2 years : pics, flights, passport stamps.

chat logs are secondary proof.

i knew my fiancée back in 2012 and we been chatting since then. when we filled our I-129F we only provided Skype logs from august 2015. i changed my laptop and my fiancée changed her phone later, and there were no way i could get chat history beyond that date. so we just had chat logs from august 2015 till Mai when we filled. and provided emails samples from 2012 (not everything)

USCIS approved that and they did not ask or bother, waiting for interview where i think the CO may ask about it, which is fine i can tell what happened.

i think you will be fine with USCIS but maybe the CO will ask on the Interview date. it would be better if you have another amternative like emails or any other app where you can fill that gap!


K-1 Visa:

 

05/12/2016 -- I-129F mailed to Lewisville, TX
05/16/2016 -- I-129F delivered to Lewisville, TX
05/19/2016 -- NOA1 email and text, case routed to California Center (WAC) ==== NOA1 Date 05/18/2016
05/24/2016 -- NOA1 Hard Copy (I-797C) Received in mail
07/20/2016 -- NOA2 email from USCIS case Status and USCIS App ===== Case approved in 63 Days
07/27/2016 -- NOA2 Hard Copy (I-797) Received in mail
08/02/2016 -- NVC Case Received
08/03/2016 -- NVC Case # and Invoice ID Assigned
08/05/2016 -- Case In Transit to embassy
08/10/2016 -- Case ready at embassy
08/15/2016 -- Packet 3 Received (email)

08/17/2016 -- NVC Letter Received in mail (nothing important ... Useless)

09/19/2016 -- Finally the embassy open interview date after long wait ... 35 Days (interview scheduled for Oct 10)

10/05/2016 -- Medical done. but no sealed envelope given.

10/10/2016 -- Interview day 1 ( pay the fee, deliver paperwork, finger printed ... and told to comeback tomorrow to be interviewed by a CO )

10/11/2016 -- Interview day 2 ( AP with g221 for missing medical )

10/17/2016 -- Medical received and delivered to embassy

10/19/2016 -- VISA ISSUED

10/23/2016 -- VISA in hand 

AOS:

Spoiler

12/22/2016 -- POE

12/30/2016 -- Marriage

01/14/2017 -- AOS mailed to Chicago, IL

01/17/2017 -- AOS delivered to Chicago, IL

01/25/2017 -- 3 NOA1 emails and texts (I-485 / I-765 / I-131), case routed to MSC

01/30/2017 -- NOA1 Hard Copy (I-797C) Received in mail for I-485 only, Notice date January 24th

01/31/2017 -- NOA1 Hard Copy (I-797C) Received in mail for I-765 & I-131, Notice date January 24th

02/06/2017 -- Biometrics Appointment Notice Received in mail, Appointment Feb 13, 2017

02/13/2017 -- Biometrics Done

04/20/2017 -- EAD (only) Approval text & email notification (day 96 since case filled, 93 since received, 86 since NOA1)

04/24/2017 -- EAD & AP NOA2 Approval notice received in mail

04/25/2017 -- EAD (only) text & email notification that card was mailed

04/28/2017 -- EAD /AP combo card in hand

09/01/2017 -- AOS Approval text & email notification (day 230 since case filled, 227 since received, 220 since NOA1) Approved in 7.5 Month, Interview waived

09/05/2017 -- NOA2 Hard Copy (I-797) Received in mail for I-485, Notice date September 1st

09/06/2017 -- Text & email notification Green card was mailed

09/09/2017 -- Green card in hand

 

 

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Yea like they said. Take pieces from here and there with the dates just to show a timeline. Thats all we did with our "proof of ongoing" cause we use text messenger with iphone so I just scrolled through(luckily had texts from a year prior still in history; but even then we had about 6-7 months missing from the original emails we sent when we met. So just show a basic timeline and youll be fine.


08/15/2014 : Met Online

06/30/2016 : I-129F Packet Sent

07/08/2016 : NOA 1 Received

08/25/2016 : NOA 2 Received (48 days)

11/08/2016 : Interview - APPROVED!

11/18/2016 : Visa in hand

11/23/2016 : POE - Dallas, Texas

From sending of I-129F petiton to POE - 146 days.

 

02/03/2017 - Married 

 

02/24/2017 - AOS packet sent

03/06/2017 - NOA1's received via text

03/31/2017 - Biometrics appointment Completed

06/01/2017 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received in mail

12/06/2017 - I-485 Approved

12/14/2017 - Green Card Received in mail - No Interview

 

 

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Thank YOU for being helpfull guys! And I'm sure glass of wine can help to calm down a lil... ;)


13/02/2017    I 129F mailed to Lockbox ,TX 

15/02/2017    I 129F delivered at Lockbox,TX

16/02/2017    NOA1 received date 

19/05/2017    NOA2 notice date

06/07/2017 NVC received our case, assigned case Num

 

 

 

 

 

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I've got a similar problem myself. We use FaceTime to talk for a couple of hours a day but Apple is retarded and doesn't keep a proper call log of FaceTime. It just shows the last call duration and when you make a new call it resets to the new one. Shocking oversight on Apples part. Has anyone had a similar thing happen. Im sure they have seen as most people have iPhones.

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Don't worry! When I filed for K1 I didn't even send those things. I sent 5/6 pictures with both our names on the back, the date and the location of the picture. I then sent all our passport stamps and flight tickets and my I-94 to prove how many times I came to the states. Me and my now husband had seen each other like every 3 months for 2 years so there were plenty of evidence there. If you've not really visited each other much then that's okay. Like everyone said, send what you have. So any chat logs/letters with a postage stamp that states the date etc will help.

Don't worry, you'll be fine. Good luck!


Our AOS journey

06/30/2016- We got married!! (L)

07/19/2016 - Sent AOS, EAD, AP documents in the post with 2 day priority USPS

07/28/2016 - Package delivered very late as was delayed somewhere in transit

08/09/2016 - Text and email notifications starting at 12.41am (texts came first and then email).

08/12/2016 - Get 3 NOA's in the post with the filing date 07/29/2016 and the NOA date 08/05/2016

08/19/2016 - Get biometrics appointment letter in the post. Scheduled for 08/29/2016 at 1:00pm

08/29/2016 - Biometrics appointment done - quick and easy!

10/13/2016 - EAD and AP approved!
10/27/2016 - EAD status updated to "Card Mailed To Me".
10/31/2016 - EAD/AP combo card received in mail.

02/04/2017 - I-485 case status goes straight to "Card is being Produced" (Approved without interview). 

02/06/2017 - I-485 case status changes to "Case Approved"

02/07/2017 - I-485 case status changes to "Card was Mailed to Me".

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Don't worry! When I filed for K1 I didn't even send those things. I sent 5/6 pictures with both our names on the back, the date and the location of the picture. I then sent all our passport stamps and flight tickets and my I-94 to prove how many times I came to the states. Me and my now husband had seen each other like every 3 months for 2 years so there were plenty of evidence there. If you've not really visited each other much then that's okay. Like everyone said, send what you have. So any chat logs/letters with a postage stamp that states the date etc will help.

Don't worry, you'll be fine. Good luck!

I agree. I-129f petition most likely needs to include proofs of meeting within 2years as noted on the I-129f instruction. But during the interview, you will need the proofs of ongoing relationship (chats).

Please refer to 7.a, 7.b, 7.b of i-129f instructions.

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-129finstr.pdf

My fiance didnt submitted any chats too. Just pictures of us, travel tickets/itineraries, passport stamps and my i-94.


Previous U.S. Visa/Trips
03-10-2014 : B1 issued date
03-24-2015 : B1/B2 issued date
02-26-2016 : Visited my aunt in Corpus Christi
02-27-2016 : Meet Ryan and he asked me out 
03-30-2016 : He proposed before I left U.S.
04-01-2016 : I left U.S. I wish I had enough days to marry him.
But, I have a very important business meeting to physically attend in Cebu on 04/04. I also have a business trip due in Japan for May 2016. 
Circumstances lead me to K-1. 
K1 - Journey
Spoiler

 

04-22-2016 : Sent I-129F Packet
07-20-2016 : Received NOA2
08-01-2016 : NVC Case # assigned
08-25-2016 : Interview Date and APPROVED!!! 
09-03-2016 : VOH
AOS - Journey
Spoiler

12-14-2016 : POE

12-30-2016 : Wedding Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01-20-2017 : Sent I-485, I-765, I-131 Packet
01-24-2017 : NOA1 Received Date
02-03-2017 : Received NOA1 Hard Copy
02-04-2017 : Received Biometrics Appointment Scheduled on 02/17
02-08-2017 : Completed Biometrics
04-22-2017 : EAD Update - Card in Production
04-27-2017 : Received EAD & AP Approval Notice
05-01-2017 : Received EAD & AP Combo Card
05-01-2017 : Received EAD & AP Combo Card
11-17-2017 : I-485 Approved Date
11-25-2017 : I-485 Approved Notice Received
11-27-2017 : GC Received at the mailbox. No text/email notification. USCIS Case Status is still at "Fingerprint Fee Received" 
 
 

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I did not submit one page of chat or emails or anything i was worried because DR is high fraud and i had red flags. I was approved.

:yes:


:girlwerewolf2xn: Ana (L) Felix :wub:

K1 March Filer 2016

Interview Approved August 19, 2016

POE September 25, 2016

AOS November Filer 2016

DISCLAIMER: Please excuse my ABC & Gramm@r I am not an editor...

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