afrocraft

You know better. We just let them live their lives. But we didn't ask them for a health policy at Ellis Island.

You can't see any middle ground between mean policies and open borders?

Rephrased:
 
Give me your tired, your poor, 
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me (with health insurance),
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

Anyway this news is just a smokescreen. No one with any serious knowledge about healthcare costs in America thinks that access by immigrants is a major cost driver. But because this administration won't go after excess profiteering by health insurers, drug & device makers, and other providers in health care, they want you to focus your ire instead on poor migrants "taking your health care away from you." From the discussion on this forum, that strategy appears to be working.

Rephrased:
 
Give me your tired, your poor, 
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me (with health insurance),
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

I agree. My only point is that we, nation of immigrants, should treat immigrants no different than we do ourselves. Give them access to the healthcare that we have. 
 
What the administration is doing is different. They're saying that immigrants must have healthcare coverage (which is fine) but they can't even buy it on the healthcare exchange like we all can. What's next -- barring immigrants from using the emergency room?

Drop the personal attack. I disagree with you because you're factually wrong.
 
Leniency would be a reduction in the standard of review or the burden of required documentation. There is no requirement for any applicant, straight or gay, to produce family pics. None whatsoever. The standard of review for all applications is a totality of the circumstances, so a reviewer considers the applicant's total context to decide the likelihood that they have a bona fide relationship.

Rephrased:
 
Give me your tired, your poor, 
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me (with health insurance),
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

Rephrased:
 
Give me your tired, your poor, 
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me (with health insurance),
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

SMH. If there is no way of proving, why do you suggest there is differential treatment?

That's not leniency. You're just taking into account their inability to provide certain discretionary documents because of their circumstances.

Look, we've seen this movie before. America prides itself as a nation of immigrants, but when the demographics of the immigrant change, sentiment towards immigration changes too. The waves of immigration of southern Europeans/Irish and of Asians in the last century and some saw similar backlash from the majority, and restrictive policies followed. Now it's mainly brown people from the South. This too, shall pass.

You're wasting your time. These people have long passed reasonableness. Something else has consumed them.

If you exclude Medicaid and subsidized plans, you're very much closing the non-employer plans to many new immigrants.
 
So just say it: You only want rich people to come here. Just say it.

Anyway this news is just a smokescreen. No one with any serious knowledge about healthcare costs in America thinks that access by immigrants is a major cost driver. But because this administration won't go after excess profiteering by health insurers, drug & device makers, and other providers in health care, they want you to focus your ire instead on poor migrants "taking your health care away from you." From the discussion on this forum, that strategy appears to be working.

Anyway this news is just a smokescreen. No one with any serious knowledge about healthcare costs in America thinks that access by immigrants is a major cost driver. But because this administration won't go after excess profiteering by health insurers, drug & device makers, and other providers in health care, they want you to focus your ire instead on poor migrants "taking your health care away from you." From the discussion on this forum, that strategy appears to be working.

Anyway this news is just a smokescreen. No one with any serious knowledge about healthcare costs in America thinks that access by immigrants is a major cost driver. But because this administration won't go after excess profiteering by health insurers, drug & device makers, and other providers in health care, they want you to focus your ire instead on poor migrants "taking your health care away from you." From the discussion on this forum, that strategy appears to be working.

You're wasting your time. These people have long passed reasonableness. Something else has consumed them.

If you exclude Medicaid and subsidized plans, you're very much closing the non-employer plans to many new immigrants.
 
So just say it: You only want rich people to come here. Just say it.

Anyway this news is just a smokescreen. No one with any serious knowledge about healthcare costs in America thinks that access by immigrants is a major cost driver. But because this administration won't go after excess profiteering by health insurers, drug & device makers, and other providers in health care, they want you to focus your ire instead on poor migrants "taking your health care away from you." From the discussion on this forum, that strategy appears to be working.

You're wasting your time. These people have long passed reasonableness. Something else has consumed them.

If you exclude Medicaid and subsidized plans, you're very much closing the non-employer plans to many new immigrants.
 
So just say it: You only want rich people to come here. Just say it.

If you exclude Medicaid and subsidized plans, you're very much closing the non-employer plans to many new immigrants.
 
So just say it: You only want rich people to come here. Just say it.

I think we know the focus of the new policy/our discussion is on those seeking entry.

I agree. My only point is that we, nation of immigrants, should treat immigrants no different than we do ourselves. Give them access to the healthcare that we have. 
 
What the administration is doing is different. They're saying that immigrants must have healthcare coverage (which is fine) but they can't even buy it on the healthcare exchange like we all can. What's next -- barring immigrants from using the emergency room?