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So in michigan if are a citizen and go to renew or get a new state id/DL they automatically register you to vote. I am going in to apply for enhanced stated ID using my certificate of naturalization soon and was wondering if I should opt out at the secretary of state (like DMV ) and register myself at a later time or just let them register me to vote at that time. Unsure if there are any downsides to them automatically doing it. Thanks

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32 minutes ago, new68 said:

So in michigan if are a citizen and go to renew or get a new state id/DL they automatically register you to vote. I am going in to apply for enhanced stated ID using my certificate of naturalization soon and was wondering if I should opt out at the secretary of state (like DMV ) and register myself at a later time or just let them register me to vote at that time. Unsure if there are any downsides to them automatically doing it. Thanks

No downsides as far as I know.

 

You can even register to vote online before DMV visit, at least that's what I did in California.

 

https://vote.gov/register

 

I registered on the same day as I became a citizen. Few days / weeks later (sorry, don't remember), I got confirmation card in the mail with voter ID.

 

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No downside.  I am a bit surprised there were not voting registration folks at your oath ceremony.  I know when my wife naturalized back in 2018, and when my niece and nephew naturalized in early 2024, they registered at their respective oath ceremonies.

 

Anyway, feel free to use the services of the Secretary of State.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I am a bit surprised there were not voting registration folks at your oath ceremony.

My wife registered within 10 minutes after receiving her Naturalization Certificate.  They had kiosks from all the surrounding counties there at her ceremony.

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1 hour ago, new68 said:

So in michigan if are a citizen and go to renew or get a new state id/DL they automatically register you to vote. I am going in to apply for enhanced stated ID using my certificate of naturalization soon and was wondering if I should opt out at the secretary of state (like DMV ) and register myself at a later time or just let them register me to vote at that time. Unsure if there are any downsides to them automatically doing it. Thanks

The only downside some citizens would consider with voter registration is also being added to the jury duty list.

Aside from maybe the presidential election years, I try not to renew my voter registration. But apparently, I'm automatically registered to vote every year.

I've served on enough juries that I should be exempted, but I still receive notices in the mail every year, and get selected about every 2-3 years.

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12 minutes ago, EatBulaga said:

The only downside some citizens would consider with voter registration is also being added to the jury duty list.

Aside from maybe the presidential election years, I try not to renew my voter registration. But apparently, I'm automatically registered to vote every year.

I've served on enough juries that I should be exempted, but I still receive notices in the mail every year, and get selected about every 2-3 years.

I got Jury Duty card as LPR. Had to reply saying I wasn't a citizen at the time. Never registered to vote until I became a citizen. Some states don't differentiate and target anybody with DL.

 

Jury Duty is mandatory obligation for most US citizens, whether registered or not registered to vote. Of course, there are some exceptions.

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14 minutes ago, OldUser said:

I got Jury Duty card as LPR. Had to reply saying I wasn't a citizen at the time. Never registered to vote until I became a citizen. Some states don't differentiate and target anybody with DL.

 

Jury Duty is mandatory obligation for most US citizens, whether registered or not registered to vote. Of course, there are some exceptions.

What is interesting is during my entire adult life as a natural born USC, I have only been called for jury duty once, and the case was settled, so I was dismissed the night before I was supposed to show up at the courthouse.  My wife has been called twice already since becoming a USC in 2018, but so far no actual case came up for her pool.

1 hour ago, Crazy Cat said:

My wife registered within 10 minutes after receiving her Naturalization Certificate.  They had kiosks from all the surrounding counties there at her ceremony.

In Michigan the SoS is able to handle it, so naturalizing citizens just have to fill out a form at the oath ceremony, and then hand it in after they take the oath.  That naturalizing citizens are instructed multiple times to turn it (the signed form) in after taking the oath avoids the potential of anyone being accused of claiming to be a USC prior to actually taking the oath.

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1 hour ago, OldUser said:

I got Jury Duty card as LPR. Had to reply saying I wasn't a citizen at the time. Never registered to vote until I became a citizen. Some states don't differentiate and target anybody with DL.

 

Jury Duty is mandatory obligation for most US citizens, whether registered or not registered to vote. Of course, there are some exceptions.

@Dashinka Since Jury Duty is tied to voter registration for most districts, theoretically, if you are not registered to vote, then you are not on the jury duty notice mailing list.

There was a spell I did not register to vote after I moved to a new voting district, and I was not sent a notice for jury duty.

After getting automatically registered to vote (I think after I renewed my driver license), I started getting jury duty notices every year.

And now, I've served on 4 juries already, with a letter from the judge for each jury served.

I show the letters to each judge when I get selected for jury pool, and none would exempt me from the pool.

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3 minutes ago, EatBulaga said:

@Dashinka Since Jury Duty is tied to voter registration for most districts, theoretically, if you are not registered to vote, then you are not on the jury duty notice list.

There was a spell I did not register to vote after I moved to a new voting district, and I was not sent a notice for jury duty.

After getting automatically registered to vote (I think after I renewed my driver license), I started getting jury duty notices every year.

And now, I've served on 4 juries already, with a letter from the judges for each jury served.

I show the letters to each judge when I get selected for jury pool, and none would exempt me from the pool.

Why would you serving Jury duty in the past exempt you from pool? I think exemptions is all about health or mental issues, criminal past or if you somehow know the victims or person being tried.

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19 minutes ago, OldUser said:

Why would you serving Jury duty in the past exempt you from pool? I think exemptions is all about health or mental issues, criminal past or if you somehow know the victims or person being tried.

There used to be a rule in our county that if you served on a jury, then you were exempt from serving on the jury for the next 3 years.

But since our county has a big backlog of court cases with a decreasing population jury pool, that rule has since been obsolete.

But that has not stopped me from asking the next judge to exempt me for the next jury pool with my higher-than-normal past record for serving on juries.

 

It is common for some citizens in our county to get notices every year, like me.

And apparently I have a profile that judges and lawyers favor on their jury.

 

So unless I can claim mental disability, I need to wait till 70 to get exempt from jury duty.

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3 hours ago, EatBulaga said:

The only downside some citizens would consider with voter registration is also being added to the jury duty list.

Aside from maybe the presidential election years, I try not to renew my voter registration. But apparently, I'm automatically registered to vote every year. 

I've served on enough juries that I should be exempted, but I still receive notices in the mail every year, and get selected about every 2-3 years.

n Michigan the list also includes DL and State ID persons

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8 hours ago, EatBulaga said:

unless I can claim mental disability

 Would "I'm sick of jury summonses" qualify?

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Virginia pulls from DMV files and voter registration. We couldn't register to vote after the ceremony (most offices were still locked down due to COVID) but the jury duty letter arrived about 2 weeks after the oath. Joke was on them. All courts were suspended as well so I got excused for all 4 weeks (And they said COVID was a bad thing).

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10 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

 Would "I'm sick of jury summonses" qualify?

I feel like my friend who lives in Harris county gets called at least 2x a year.  

 

We're in Montgomery county and hubs just got his first jury summons.  He naturalized in 2019. 

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