A short rant

[Rocio0010 5,573]

1 hour ago, Mobius1 said:

Said that's all he needs as well as "(lets assume) Even if the marriage was fake at some point, the fact that there is a child made it real"

I can’t believe that a person with that thinking process gets to decide on somebody’s immigration status. Terrible.

[Redro 4,602]

16 hours ago, Mobius1 said:

That's definitely not the intent. No one should have a child just to prove something.  But a child is among the heaviest of evidences uscis considers. I am saying this based on the first hand experience in the interview.

 

A pretty senior and not to happy/ friendly looking IO took our interview. As soon as we presented the birth cert as first evidence, it was like he stepped into happy land. Said that's all he needs as well as "(lets assume) Even if the marriage was fake at some point, the fact that there is a child made it real"

 

That's fairly old school thinking... 

People can easily have a one night stand, conceive and never meet again. 

For all the IO knows... the beneficiary and petitioner could have an arrangement where the beneficiary is a sperm donor in exchange for a GC. 

Conceiving a child only proves two people are fertile. 

 

And people having a kid because they think that would be the best type of evidence when their relationship is shaky is a horrifying idea. 

Edited June 19, 2022 by ROK2USA

[Mike E 11,727]

When you hear hoof beats, think horses not zebras.  

[Rocio0010 5,573]

Bam! I was in Reddit and saw another one…. AOS, family- based, approved in four months…

[Redro 4,602]

1 hour ago, Rocio0010 said:

Bam! I was in Reddit and saw another one…. AOS, family- based, approved in four months…

From K1? 

[Rocio0010 5,573]

2 hours ago, ROK2USA said:

From K1? 

No, you’re right… employment based. But still 

[Mobius1 175]

10 hours ago, ROK2USA said:

That's fairly old school thinking... 

People can easily have a one night stand, conceive and never meet again. 

For all the IO knows... the beneficiary and petitioner could have an arrangement where the beneficiary is a sperm donor in exchange for a GC. 

Conceiving a child only proves two people are fertile. 

 

And people having a kid because they think that would be the best type of evidence when their relationship is shaky is a horrifying idea. 

You are thinking of a situation that almost never happens. Child is a very strong supporting evidence on top of other things such as property, pictures, affidavits, physical and financial co-mingling. Things that you normally send out.

 

No one is suggesting that its the only evidence a person needs to abuse the system and get away with it. 

Edited June 19, 2022 by Mobius1

[Rafagus 64]

24 minutes ago, Mobius1 said:

You are thinking of a situation that almost never happens. Child is a very strong supporting evidence on top of other things such as property, pictures, affidavits, physical and financial co-mingling. Things that you normally send out.

 

No one is suggesting that its the only evidence a person needs to abuse the system and get away with it. 

I think a child in a marriage makes the adjudicating officer's lives easier as they don't have to dig as deep into a secondary evidence.  Nonetheless, I would expect that their training would allow them to sniff out the fraudulent cases, even if there's a child present.

 

I would not think that all a couple has to show is a birth certificate, they still have to do their due diligence, but, apparently, a baby sure makes things easier.

 

That being said, each case is different, and each officer is different, and, sadly, a lot of discretion is built in into the system.

 

 

[Rocio0010 5,573]

12 minutes ago, Rafagus said:

Nonetheless, I would expect that their training would allow them to sniff out the fraudulent cases, even if there's a child present.

I wonder if they ever found fraud when a couple had a child. Like, I'm genuinely curious if there has even been a case like that.

 

12 minutes ago, Rafagus said:

discretion

and racial profiling, too. I don't think childfree cases like ours gets as much scrutiny as when the petitioner is from Nigeria or Ghana

Edited June 19, 2022 by Rocio0010

[Moe428 129]

On 6/18/2022 at 1:37 PM, Rocio0010 said:

I can’t believe that a person with that thinking process gets to decide on somebody’s immigration status. Terrible.

From their perspective, they want to deal with as few 'red flags' cases as possible.  If they can remove the red flag from a case, it makes their life easier.

[Redro 4,602]

4 hours ago, Mobius1 said:

You are thinking of a situation that almost never happens. Child is a very strong supporting evidence on top of other things such as property, pictures, affidavits, physical and financial co-mingling. Things that you normally send out.

 

No one is suggesting that its the only evidence a person needs to abuse the system and get away with it. 

I've been watching a certain show on TLC and it appears every other couple goes through the K1 process because of an OOPS pregnancy but they barely know each other. 

I'm feeling a little cynical about intentions these days 

 

But, I will agree having children is strong evidence... and an IO even suggested it to a couple at their AOS interview:

"Another thing that just kind of rubbed me the wrong way happened at the end of the interview. He told me the evidence we had brought with us was sufficient for the conditional greencard, but for ROC we would need to show a lot more. I half jokingly replied that we had not planned on buying another house and were hoping the cars we had purchased would last us a few years at least, so what in the world kind of "a lot more" evidence could possibly be expected? To my shock the reply was something to the effect of not to worry, if I was pregnant by the time the ROC interview came around we shouldn't have any problems. I don't even remember how I responded to that one, but I truly find it shocking that an immigration official suggested I have a baby to bolster my immigration case. Is this something that has happened to others here?"

[dnyal 32]

11 hours ago, Rocio0010 said:

No, you’re right… employment based. But still 

I remember my AOS was approved in three months at the Tampa office. That was back in 2018, though.

[cocoVA 60]

Y’all 

It’s been a while I logged in but can someone please explain to me what’s going on? 
 

what is AOS?

[beloved_dingo 1,939]

15 hours ago, coco3542 said:

Y’all 

It’s been a while I logged in but can someone please explain to me what’s going on? 
 

what is AOS?

Adjustment of Status. The process people have to go through if they did the K-1 visa process or married/adjusted from another type of visa (visitor, work, etc). 

[cocoVA 60]

7 hours ago, beloved_dingo said:

Adjustment of Status. The process people have to go through if they did the K-1 visa process or married/adjusted from another type of visa (visitor, work, etc). 

Well, I’m not K1 Visa but I am CR1. 
 

not sure what’s going on now 😕 should I contact my Congress man? It helped a lot the last time when they lost my package after 2 weeks I had the card in the mail.