Any clue if legal action will be taken due to recent developments in MOS?

[MMaliavko 5]

Hey everyone,

 

I just signed up here on Visajourney yesterday. Place seems like a pretty legit source for info, or atleast the links that source official information, so here I am.

 

With all of the recent happenings, Warsaw becoming the de facto embassy for the "homeless" Russians,  does anybody think that this could be grounds for further lawsuits?

 

I have yet to even hire an immigration attorney, but at this stage, things are becoming so complex. I'm sure I will need to get one in the near future.

 

I respect and appreciate the men and women who work these jobs at all these government agencies, and I am not in it to hassle anyone, just,  I personally feel this is getting a little bit ridiculous. Some of you have been waiting years and there is still no end in sight. (I am stuck at NVC, NOA2 was the last thing I received, plus a few emails from NVC telling me that covid is causing delays, yada yada, do not take further action at this time.)

 

It's not something I want to do, but I want to live without my fiancee for another year, even less.

[Strawberrymermaid 346]

1 minute ago, MMaliavko said:

Hey everyone,

 

I just signed up here on Visajourney yesterday. Place seems like a pretty legit source for info, or atleast the links that source official information, so here I am.

 

With all of the recent happenings, Warsaw becoming the de facto embassy for the "homeless" Russians,  does anybody think that this could be grounds for further lawsuits?

 

I have yet to even hire an immigration attorney, but at this stage, things are becoming so complex. I'm sure I will need to get one in the near future.

 

I respect and appreciate the men and women who work these jobs at all these government agencies, and I am not in it to hassle anyone, just,  I personally feel this is getting a little bit ridiculous. Some of you have been waiting years and there is still no end in sight. (I am stuck at NVC, NOA2 was the last thing I received, plus a few emails from NVC telling me that covid is causing delays, yada yada, do not take further action at this time.)

 

It's not something I want to do, but I want to live without my fiancee for another year, even less.

It seems most people feel that going the Poland route is better than a lawsuit. Its complicated, and you must get a Schengen visa and spend extra money, but it can be done. Sometimes lawsuits end up not working in your favor anyway, and USCIS will just close the case. I would personally rather gamble and go through Poland than try to sue - the State Dpt blames Russia anyway for the limited number of visas so I'm not sure a lawsuit is viable. Have you tried transferring to Poland?

[MMaliavko 5]

1 minute ago, Strawberrymermaid said:

It seems most people feel that going the Poland route is better than a lawsuit. Its complicated, and you must get a Schengen visa and spend extra money, but it can be done. Sometimes lawsuits end up not working in your favor anyway, and USCIS will just close the case. I would personally rather gamble and go through Poland than try to sue - the State Dpt blames Russia anyway for the limited number of visas so I'm not sure a lawsuit is viable. Have you tried transferring to Poland?

I just submitted an inquiry on the public inquiry forum yesterday, so we'll see how that goes. I'd much prefer that route myself. But it just raises a lot of questions as well. (Schengen visas, backlogs, medicals, not to mention the issue about covid vaccines which is a separate issue)

 

Excuse me if I've come off hostile, I'm just trying to explore avenues and see what other people are thinking.

[SalishSea 16,775]

7 minutes ago, MMaliavko said:

Hey everyone,

 

I just signed up here on Visajourney yesterday. Place seems like a pretty legit source for info, or atleast the links that source official information, so here I am.

 

With all of the recent happenings, Warsaw becoming the de facto embassy for the "homeless" Russians,  does anybody think that this could be grounds for further lawsuits?

 

I have yet to even hire an immigration attorney, but at this stage, things are becoming so complex. I'm sure I will need to get one in the near future.

 

I respect and appreciate the men and women who work these jobs at all these government agencies, and I am not in it to hassle anyone, just,  I personally feel this is getting a little bit ridiculous. Some of you have been waiting years and there is still no end in sight. (I am stuck at NVC, NOA2 was the last thing I received, plus a few emails from NVC telling me that covid is causing delays, yada yada, do not take further action at this time.)

 

It's not something I want to do, but I want to live without my fiancee for another year, even less.

Lawsuits against who?  The government of Russia for severing those diplomatic ties?   There are many hostile countries, or countries with civil unrest, where the US does not have  consular services.

[Strawberrymermaid 346]

4 minutes ago, MMaliavko said:

I just submitted an inquiry on the public inquiry forum yesterday, so we'll see how that goes. I'd much prefer that route myself. But it just raises a lot of questions as well. (Schengen visas, backlogs, medicals, not to mention the issue about covid vaccines which is a separate issue)

 

Excuse me if I've come off hostile, I'm just trying to explore avenues and see what other people are thinking.

No worries, its a tense situation. 

I think you need to email Poland directly and not even deal with NVC.

(I had to email Poland myself. We were transferred and given a new number in Sept. However its taking like 3 months for document reviewing at NVC so I'm still waiting. As a K1, you don't deal with this part)

For instance, theres a K1 here who got NOA2 last month and already scheduled his appointment for his fiancee in Poland. K1 has to schedule it yourself (unlike CR1 where NVC assigns it). 

 

Edited November 9, 2021 by Strawberrymermaid

[MMaliavko 5]

7 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Lawsuits against who?  The government of Russia for severing those diplomatic ties?   There are many hostile countries, or countries with civil unrest, where the US does not have  consular services.

A ban against hiring locals does not seem like it should should shut the embassy down completely. It seems like we are just upset that we've lost cheap labor, and refuse to hire and train Americans to send to work abroad. I know that diplomats have been expelled from Moscow in a ####### for tat sort of move, but I don't recall reading that Moscow is limiting the number of Americans working in the American embassy. Admittedly. I could be completely wrong.  Again, excuse my cynicism.

 

I am no expert. Not even close. Very very far from it.

 

EDIT: typos

Edited November 9, 2021 by MMaliavko

[MMaliavko 5]

11 minutes ago, Strawberrymermaid said:

13 minutes ago, MMaliavko said:

I just submitted an inquiry on the public inquiry forum yesterday, so we'll see how that goes. I'd much prefer that route myself. But it just raises a lot of questions as well. (Schengen visas, backlogs, medicals, not to mention the issue about covid vaccines which is a separate issue)

 

Excuse me if I've come off hostile, I'm just trying to explore avenues and see what other people are thinking.

I think you need to email Poland directly and not even deal with NVC.

I was under the impression that cases which were already forwarded to Moscow, should contact Warsaw, and the cases still waiting at the NVC should inquire with them.

[Strawberrymermaid 346]

2 minutes ago, MMaliavko said:

I was under the impression that cases which were already forwarded to Moscow, should contact Warsaw, and the cases still waiting at the NVC should inquire with them.

Ahh I see that now listed on the US Embassy Poland site. Hopefully they will get back to you soon. 

[MMaliavko 5]

12 minutes ago, Strawberrymermaid said:

Ahh I see that now listed on the US Embassy Poland site. Hopefully they will get back to you soon. 

Thanks for taking the time. I appreciate it. Good luck to you, as well.

[arken 4,197]

24 minutes ago, MMaliavko said:

A ban against hiring locals does not seem like it should should shut the embassy down completely. It seems like we are just upset that we've lost cheap labor, and refuse to hire and train Americans to send to work abroad. I know that diplomats have been expelled from Moscow in a ####### for tat sort of move, but I don't recall reading that Moscow is limiting the number of Americans working in the American embassy. Admittedly. I could be completely wrong.  Again, excuse my cynicism.

 

I am no expert. Not even close. Very very far from it.

 

EDIT: typos

US can't bring any number of US personnel to work in the US embassy unless Russia allows/grants the visas. Russia is allowing diplomatic visas to the number matching the russina diplomats in the US, just few hundreds. US was hiring locals in several hundreds. Now it can't hire locals and it can't bring more people from the US. When the workforce gets reduced from over 1,500 to just a few hundred, what can one do?

[MMaliavko 5]

27 minutes ago, arken said:

Russia is allowing diplomatic visas to the number matching the russina diplomats in the US, just few hundreds.

Aaaa. This is just information that I was unaware of. My understanding of the expulsion of diplomats is probably just incorrect. I had thought that, for example, one can be expelled because one is suspected of being a spy, or working counter to whatever the visa is, etc. And that someone else can be sent in their place, with correct permissions of course.

 

It's probably common knowledge, but if you have some sort of link that confirms it, that'd be nice. 

Edited November 9, 2021 by MMaliavko
Typo

[SteveInBostonI130 3,319]

2 hours ago, MMaliavko said:

Hey everyone,

 

I just signed up here on Visajourney yesterday. Place seems like a pretty legit source for info, or atleast the links that source official information, so here I am.

 

With all of the recent happenings, Warsaw becoming the de facto embassy for the "homeless" Russians,  does anybody think that this could be grounds for further lawsuits?

 

I have yet to even hire an immigration attorney, but at this stage, things are becoming so complex. I'm sure I will need to get one in the near future.

 

I respect and appreciate the men and women who work these jobs at all these government agencies, and I am not in it to hassle anyone, just,  I personally feel this is getting a little bit ridiculous. Some of you have been waiting years and there is still no end in sight. (I am stuck at NVC, NOA2 was the last thing I received, plus a few emails from NVC telling me that covid is causing delays, yada yada, do not take further action at this time.)

 

It's not something I want to do, but I want to live without my fiancee for another year, even less.

 

Recent lawsuits/WoM have resulted in the NVC denying the I-129F petition based on expiry.  Officially, the I-129F is only valid for 4 months.  NVC and the embassies have been quietly extending it due to the delays caused by Covid and other issues (specificially, for Russia, the closure of the embassy for all visa processing).

 

But if forced to take action due to a lawsuit, the NVC has been pointing out that it has been over 4 months and sending the petitions back to USCIS to die.  I would strongly advise against filing a lawsuit.

 

 

 

 

 

[SteveInBostonI130 3,319]

1 hour ago, MMaliavko said:

Aaaa. This is just information that I was unaware of. My understanding of the expulsion of diplomats is probably just incorrect. I had thought that, for example, one can be expelled because one is suspected of being a spy, or working counter to whatever the visa is, etc. And that someone else can be sent in their place, with correct permissions of course.

 

It's probably common knowledge, but if you have some sort of link that confirms it, that'd be nice. 

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-embassy-moscow-dwindling-caretaker-presence-us-official-says-2021-10-27/

 

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-business-russia-moscow-38f506d4d9d7191d4f3d17bb1f2dd54a

 

[millefleur 5,037]

As a person who had the unfortunate experience of needing lawyers recently, going through Warsaw is bound to be the cheaper and faster route. Lawyers are extremely expensive and what's worse is, they can make mistakes and give wrong information. 

 

I would just stick with the Warsaw route for now. The medical can be done in Moscow so at least there is that. Unless you have a strong reason to switch to another embassy like Georgia or Kazakhstan, Warsaw is the best bet. 

[maxbuo 4]

8 hours ago, millefleur said:

As a person who had the unfortunate experience of needing lawyers recently, going through Warsaw is bound to be the cheaper and faster route. Lawyers are extremely expensive and what's worse is, they can make mistakes and give wrong information. 

 

I would just stick with the Warsaw route for now. The medical can be done in Moscow so at least there is that. Unless you have a strong reason to switch to another embassy like Georgia or Kazakhstan, Warsaw is the best bet. 

I second this. I talked with a lawyer in May about an ir1 and she told me a lawsuit was not going to help. We transferred the case to Poland in May and had the visa by early October. I think things are moving faster now. Based on the timeline she gave me, a lawsuit would have been resolved no earlier. I think any honest attorney will tell you the same (and charge you $250 for the hour of their time!)