Trump contradicts Pompeo, plays down alleged Russian role in cyberattack

[moxy 1,051]

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President Donald Trump suggested Saturday that China might have been behind a cyberattack affecting multiple U.S. government agencies and companies, despite Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s allegation hours earlier that Russia was likely behind the attack.

 

The assertion adds confusion to an already complex situation, as cybersecurity workers strive to figure out a hack that came to light less than week ago. At that time Reuters reported, citing people familiar with the matter, that attackers were affiliated with Russia.

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A U.S. official confirmed to NBC News on Saturday that White House officials were planning to issue a statement on Friday that would say Russia was responsible for the cyberattack but were told to stand down. The Associated Press reported on the White House’s plans earlier on Saturday. Two officials told NBC News that Trump’s tweets had caught White House off guard.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/19/trump-contradicts-pompeo-plays-down-alleged-russian-role-in-hack.html

 

Sure is good to be the Russians for about 30 more days.

[Cheburashka34 228]

Apparently I'm not allowed to speak my mind on this website.

[moxy 1,051]

12 minutes ago, Cheburashka34 said:

Apparently I'm not allowed to speak my mind on this website.

Speak your mind. Everyone else here does.

 

Good to meet you by the way, I don’t think we’ve crossed paths. I’m a big Cheburashka fan.

 

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by moxy

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Finally, in 30 days we will have a President that will do as he is told.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

10 hours ago, moxy said:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/19/trump-contradicts-pompeo-plays-down-alleged-russian-role-in-hack.html

 

Sure is good to be the Russians for about 30 more days.

Are they in the room with us now?

[moxy 1,051]

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White House officials had drafted a statement assigning blame to Russia for the attack and were preparing to release it Friday afternoon but were told to stand down, according to people familiar with the plans. Officials initially weren't told why the statement was pulled back.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/pompeo-us-government-hack-russia/index.html

 

Remember when the Republican Party was the so-called party of national defense?

 

I'm not saying the president is a Russian asset, but if he were a Russian asset this is pretty much how he'd act.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, moxy said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/pompeo-us-government-hack-russia/index.html

 

Remember when the Republican Party was the so-called party of national defense?

 

I'm not saying the president is a Russian asset, but if he were a Russian asset this is pretty much how he'd act.

Sounds like you have an awful lot of experience with Russian assets. Give us more details about how you've observed them acting.

[moxy 1,051]

I see your point. There's just nothing to go on. There's just so little evidence of Trump's ties to Russia. Oh... except...

Flynn:
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-flynn-comey-russia-timeline-2017-htmlstory.html

 

Manafort:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/342509-new-book-devils-bargain-details-trump-lashing-out-at-manafort-days

 

Tillerson:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/07/tillerson-says-trump-pressed-putin-on-russian-hacking-but-the-evidence-suggests-not-so-much/?utm_term=.e0ac214bd9bc

 

Sessions:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/did-trump-kushner-sessions-have-undisclosed-meeting-russian-n767096

 

Kushner:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/09/trump-russia-new-meeting-revealed-involving-donald-jr-kushner-and-manafort

 

Wray:
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-wray-russia-20170712-story.html

 

Morgan, Lewis and Bockius law firm:
http://nypost.com/2017/05/12/trump-used-russia-law-firm-of-the-year-to-draft-letter-about-his-finances/

 

Carter Page:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-has-questioned-trump-campaign-adviser-carter-page-at-length-in-russia-probe/2017/06/26/1a271dcc-5aa5-11e7-a9f6-7c3296387341_story.html?utm_term=.24d0b138db83

 

Roger Stone:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/14/roger-stone-house-testimony-postponed-240568

 

Felix Sater:
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-felix-sater-real-estate-632690

 

Boris Epshteyn:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-press-officer-boris-epshteyn-investigation-russia/story?id=47731166

 

Rosneft:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/06/08/trump-new-fbi-director-chris-wray-russian-ties-rosneft-gazprom-column/102603214/

 

Gazprom:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/30/trumps-energy-adviser-is-personally-invested-in-gazprom/

 

Sergey Gorkov:
http://www.newsweek.com/sergey-gorkov-grad-russian-banker-kushner-617422

 

Azerbaijan:
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senators-ask-for-an-investigation-into-trump-dealings-in-azerbaijan

 

“I love Putin”:
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/

 

Lavrov:
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/27/15875434/sergey-kislyak-trump-russia-return-moscow

 

Sergey Kislyak:
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/27/15875434/sergey-kislyak-trump-russia-return-moscow

 

Oval Office:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-oval-office-with-trump-and-the-russians-broad-smiles-and-loose-lips/2017/05/16/2e8b0d14-3a66-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html

 

Gingrich/Kislyak phone calls:
http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/newt-gingrich-trump-russia-meetings/3504/

 

Russian business interests:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/05/trump-lawyers-up-conflicts-of-interest/526185/

 

Emoluments clause:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/dc-and-marylands-lawsuit-trump-flagrantly-violating-emoluments-clause/2017/06/12/8a9806a8-4f9b-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html

 

Alex Schnaider:
http://theweek.com/speedreads/699538/russian-bank-directly-linked-putin-helped-finance-trump-hotel

 

Hack of the DNC:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/5/dnc-email-server-most-wanted-evidence-for-russia-i/

 

Guccifer v2.0
https://theintercept.com/2017/07/14/just-six-days-after-trump-jr-s-meeting-guccifer-2-0-emailed-me-but-there-was-one-key-difference/

 

Mike Pence:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/05/18/mike-pence-insists-he-didnt-know-flynn-under-investigation-turkey-lobbying/101831354/

 

Russians mysteriously dying:
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/31/eight-prominent-russians-dead-since-us-elections-labott-dnt-erin.cnn

 

Trump: “please hack Hillary’s email”:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html

 

Trump house sale for $100M during housing bust to Russian fertilizer czar:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article135187364.html

 

Speaking of the Russian fertilizer czar:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article137881768.html

 

Nunes mysterious flight:
http://www.businessinsider.com/nunes-white-house-grounds-trump-surveillance-2017-3

 

Nunes personal investments in Russian winery:
http://www.business2community.com/government-politics/devin-nunes-invested-california-wine-company-business-ties-russia-fact-check-01809651#ilwFvHKSgDxcmIOQ.97

 

Joint cyber defense with Russia:
https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/16/trump-putin-joint-cybersecurity-group/

 

Cyprus:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/23/wilbur-ross-russian-deal-bank-of-cyprus-donald-trump-commerce-secretary

 

Trump doesn’t want to release his tax returns:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politics/trump-taxes-tax-returns/index.html

 

Election hacking:
http://time.com/4828306/russian-hacking-election-widespread-private-data/

 

GOP platform change to Ukraine:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/jd-gordon-change-story-gop-platform-ukraine-amendment

 

Steele Dossier:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/16/donald-trump-jrs-meeting-with-russians-undermines-/

 

Sally Yates can’t testify:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-sought-to-block-sally-yates-from-testifying-to-congress-on-russia/2017/03/28/82b73e18-13b4-11e7-9e4f-09aa75d3ec57_story.html

 

Intelligence community investigative reports:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/read-us-intelligence-report-russian-hacking-2016-campaign/

 

Appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by Trump in the Trump university scandal, appointed to investigation:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-florida-ethics-panel-clears-pam-bondi-over-trump-contribution/article/2620970

 

White House refusing to turn over documents related to hiring/firing Flynn:
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/330410-white-house-rejects-oversight-request-for-flynn-documents

 

Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/trump-flynn/525816/

 

Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding Russian hacking in 2015 to Paul Ryan, who sat on it:
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/intelligence/328718-uk-spies-first-saw-trump-russia-ties-report

 

British intelligence following the money:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/richard-dearlove-mi6-trump-russia-money-2008-financial-crisis-us-election-a7684341.html

 

Trump team knew about Flynn, hired him anyway:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/05/17/report-trump-team-knew-flynn-being-investigated/101816334/

 

Let’s fire Comey:
http://www.npr.org/2017/05/10/527744909/suspicious-timing-and-convenient-reasoning-for-trumps-firing-of-comey

 

Election night Russian trademark gift:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/18/us/politics/russia-trump-trademarks.html

 

Russian diplomatic compound electronic equipment destruction:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russians-destroyed-and-removed-material-from-shuttered-compounds-officials-say/

 

Seems like I'm always doing the research you true-believers ought to be doing yourselves. And I'm sure the usual "it's too much to read" and "fake media" "liberal bias" "I can't hear you lalalala" excuses will be the reply. It's ok. As I said, I'm just countering the narrative. No desire to push ice bergs with rowboats.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Sounds like you have an awful lot of experience with Russian assets. Give us more details about how you've observed them acting.

 

38 minutes ago, moxy said:

I see your point. There's just nothing to go on. There's just so little evidence of Trump's ties to Russia. Oh... except...

 

 

[moxy 1,051]

Me: provides factual information

You: provides memes

 

That's really the "Russia hoax debate" in a nutshell. Nicely done sir, thank you.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

 

36 minutes ago, moxy said:

Me: provides factual information

You: provides memes

 

That's really the "Russia hoax debate" in a nutshell. Nicely done sir, thank you.

😃

 

 

3 hours ago, moxy said:

I'm not saying the president is a Russian asset, but if he were a Russian asset this is pretty much how he'd act.

 

2 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Sounds like you have an awful lot of experience with Russian assets. Give us more details about how you've observed them acting.

1 hour ago, moxy said:

I see your point. There's just nothing to go on. There's just so little evidence of Trump's ties to Russia. Oh... except...

 

- Make declaration of A (if he were a Russian asset this is how he'd act)

- Request how one observes A (your experience observing Russian assets and how Trump is acting like one)

- Make declaration of B (Trump ties to Russia)

- Insist one provided factual information of A because they gave a million links of what is presumed to be B

 

Indeed, this is the Russia conspiracy debate in a nutshell. Relevant meme.

Edited December 20, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[moxy 1,051]

As I keep saying, I'm not here to change you mind. You could read every single one of those well sourced articles and still deny. Just here to counter the conspiracy theory narratives that have zero basis in reality.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

3 hours ago, moxy said:

Me: provides factual information

You: provides memes

 

That's really the "Russia hoax debate" in a nutshell. Nicely done sir, thank you.

I have provided proof to back up my claims in the past about spying and you tried to say I was lying even when I had proof. 

[moxy 1,051]

5 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I have provided proof to back up my claims in the past about spying and you tried to say I was lying even when I had proof. 

I absolutely have never said anyone here is lying. I have said sources are bogus, I have said people are factually incorrect, I have said people are promoting a false narrative. I don't accuse people of lying specifically because I try to give peole the benefit of the doubt that they are just mislead, rather than pushing false theories they know to be untrue.

 

I have, however, accused one person of being a humbug, but that person has been dead for 150 years. In any case, my apologies to the Johnson descendants for the possibly accurate but nonetheless vile besmirchment of their ancestor.

 

In any case, Obama didn't spy on the Trump campaign. I just googled it for you, here's the top from hit: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/live-blog/first-presidential-debate-trump-biden-n1241282/ncrd1241514#blogHeader