Woodward dismisses claims he could have saved lives by publishing Trump's coronavirus remarks sooner

[TBoneTX 43,057]

This teapot-tempest is simply the latest in the "one bombshell per week" that the Opposition will throw against Pres. Trump's wall, to see if it will stick, between now and the election.

[Divided States 33]

The liar-in-chief, conman, little Donnie never fails to amaze me. What stuns me is how supportive his little sheep are.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

Please define what he or the Covid Task Force could have done to be hero's?  Btw, I lost my first cousin because my governor decided it was best to put Covid+ patients back in care facilities via EO.  Do I blame her, no, not really, but she is an idiot that doesn't follow the science.

I'll just drop this one in here.

 

 

he failed. He cost lives. That is all you will ever get about the scamdemic 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

3 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

so what could we have done differently.  The CDC and Drs were all over the place 

 

  Probably shouldn't have dismissed the WHO out of hand so quickly. At this point, most of the rest of the world seems to have done a better job with flattening the curve than we have been able to.

[laylalex 7,247]

3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Please define what he or the Covid Task Force could have done to be hero's?  Btw, I lost my first cousin because my governor decided it was best to put Covid+ patients back in care facilities via EO.  Do I blame her, no, not really, but she is an idiot that doesn't follow the science.

The people I lost both went quickly. Very, very quickly. We still don't know how either contracted the virus, both were people living in the world, taking reasonable precautions. But this isn't a suffering competition, I truly don't mean it to be. 

 

I think what Trump could have done to be a hero is say to all of us what he said to Woodward at the time he said it to Woodward: this is worse than the flu, this is transmitted not just by touching surfaces but through the air. In February, we weren't hearing those things from Trump. We were being told it wasn't a big deal, it would all go away, America has it under control. But Trump knew this was a far bigger deal than he was letting on at the time he was saying the opposite, and he told Woodward he knew it was a big deal. I get the impulse not to freak people out, but there is a path to hew between underplaying the virus to achieve that goal and putting everyone into a state of panic. I think his heart was in the right place but the execution was faulty. 

[Dashinka 23,238]

4 minutes ago, laylalex said:

The people I lost both went quickly. Very, very quickly. We still don't know how either contracted the virus, both were people living in the world, taking reasonable precautions. But this isn't a suffering competition, I truly don't mean it to be. 

 

I think what Trump could have done to be a hero is say to all of us what he said to Woodward at the time he said it to Woodward: this is worse than the flu, this is transmitted not just by touching surfaces but through the air. In February, we weren't hearing those things from Trump. We were being told it wasn't a big deal, it would all go away, America has it under control. But Trump knew this was a far bigger deal than he was letting on at the time he was saying the opposite, and he told Woodward he knew it was a big deal. I get the impulse not to freak people out, but there is a path to hew between underplaying the virus to achieve that goal and putting everyone into a state of panic. I think his heart was in the right place but the execution was faulty. 

So let's look at the timeline.  Trump said this to Woodward on February 7th when the US had less than 15 confirmed cases and 0 deaths.  What would you have done differently on February 8th if the President had come out and proclaimed everyone put on masks, businesses must shutdown, and you could not get together with your family or friends?   He was lambasted for limiting travel from China, and I will admit he should have limited travel from other places at the same time, but we had other political types also telling us it was no big deal, come to Chinatown.  He did in fact tell everyone it was a big deal in late March, but he was still remaining positive and did not want to instill any more panic than was already there, and we also had other task force members telling it like it was which was the strategy used by the WH (remember the daily briefings until many grew tired of them).  Dr. Fauci has come out and said no one, not even President Trump, directed him as to what to say or how to say it.  Many folks will criticize the execution, but I doubt anyone else would have seen any different results.

 

This has already been discussed ad infinitum regarding nothing in the Woodward book is a revelation, and I doubt it will sway anyone regardless of how hard the leftist media tries.

[Dashinka 23,238]

18 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Probably shouldn't have dismissed the WHO out of hand so quickly. At this point, most of the rest of the world seems to have done a better job with flattening the curve than we have been able to.

Remind me, when did the WHO declare this a pandemic?

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

19 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Probably shouldn't have dismissed the WHO out of hand so quickly. At this point, most of the rest of the world seems to have done a better job with flattening the curve than we have been able to.

What specifically?

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

What specifically?

 

     For one, we could have accepted the test kits they offered in February. They (WHO) certainly got some things wrong, especially in the beginning, but that shouldn't have led to dismissing them as if they didn't know anything.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

When their primary concern is not hurting the Chinese economy and helping them spread their propaganda, they absolutely should be dismissed out of hand. One doesn't presume they don't know anything but rather that they're smart and the harm they're doing is deliberate.

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

2 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

he failed. He cost lives. That is all you will ever get about the scamdemic 

When I listen the president go on like this, I just reinforces my view that he is not equipped for the job.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

23 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

When I listen the president go on like this, I just reinforces my view that he is not equipped for the job.

The term is called confirmation bias. You already didn't like the guy, so anything he says is going to reinforce it, and there are plenty of outlets willing to oblige. It's precisely the point of hanging onto "sentences" that "costs lives".

Edited September 10, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Steeleballz 7,550]

38 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

The term is called confirmation bias. You already didn't like the guy, so anything he says is going to reinforce it, and there are plenty of outlets willing to oblige. It's precisely the point of hanging onto "sentences" that "costs lives".

 

     It's also called empirical observation.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

It could be empirical.. for Woodward, but we only got a few selected sentences that he hung onto for months.  Empirically, we've observed how often this sort of contrived smear effort has played out. There's no benevolent explanation as to why, if Trump's response back in Feb cost lives why Woodward would wait, beyond the timing. Best of luck to him with his book. 😂

 

This isn't going to do anything to Trump. 

 

Also, back to the empirical observation of smear efforts, logic dictates we can expect more, because these people aren't anything but predictable. I also expect the same "see! this is why orange man bad!" charade. We'll see when people realize this doesn't work anymore. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

49 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

The term is called confirmation bias. You already didn't like the guy, so anything he says is going to reinforce it, and there are plenty of outlets willing to oblige. It's precisely the point of hanging onto "sentences" that "costs lives".

You are free to jump to conclusions about my experience, views and background based in what little you read, but you don't know me. 

 

I wasn't listening to a third party talk about the president. I observed, first hand, the question and both the substance and tone of his reply.