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Just now, CanAm1980 said:

You are free to jump to conclusions about my experience, views and background based in what little you read, but you don't know me. 

 

I wasn't listening to a third party talk about the president. I observed, first hand, the question and both the substance and tone of his reply. 

That's like saying you empirically heard Smollett describe what happened. You heard portions of what someone wanted you to hear. Because I don't partake in the little Ben Shapiro Hanlon's razor facade, I assume you have a modicum of common sense and wouldn't suggest that handpicked portions of an interview released entirely explains anything. But because you do and in your prior posts you've come to similar character conclusions based on what's clearly severe animus, I can easily come to a conclusion. I'm not saying you're a terrible person or insulting you, but the methodology is not in the remotest sense logical and empirically it's occurred so much in interactions with people on the left its unequivocally a theme. It's a common one used to try and beat people over the head with negativity as if that upsets them or gets them to capitulate. Doesn't work anymore. It'll spare you much heartbreak later if you come to terms with it now. 

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2 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

When I listen the president go on like this, I just reinforces my view that he is not equipped for the job.

I know I cast a big presence but I am not the President 

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2 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I know I cast a big presence but I am not the President 

Clever , I should have been specific about the video you posted with Acosta and Trump.

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4 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

I observed, first hand, the question and both the substance and tone of his reply. 

Did you?  Can you please share the video which shows you in attendance when this all happened?  I'd be keen to watch it.

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5 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Did you?  Can you please share the video which shows you in attendance when this all happened?  I'd be keen to watch it.

Bet he saw the impeachment hearings where "witnesses" never witnessed anything and effectively were describing their feelings about what they heard someone else say or someone else hear another person say a person in question implied. Second and third-hand hearsay are now first-hand accounts! Welcome to the inverted world of social justice. It's all justifiable because orange man bad! 

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7 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Probably shouldn't have dismissed the WHO out of hand so quickly. At this point, most of the rest of the world seems to have done a better job with flattening the curve than we have been able to.

So what particular thing the Who reccomend that he ignored would have saved many lives.

 

The Dem leadership on the news tonight blaming Trump for the death toll was disgusting. 

 

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33 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

So what particular thing the Who reccomend that he ignored would have saved many lives.

 

The Dem leadership on the news tonight blaming Trump for the death toll was disgusting. 

 

What causes the US death toll to be so much higher than other countries?

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1 hour ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Bet he saw the impeachment hearings where "witnesses" never witnessed anything and effectively were describing their feelings about what they heard someone else say or someone else hear another person say a person in question implied. Second and third-hand hearsay are now first-hand accounts! Welcome to the inverted world of social justice. It's all justifiable because orange man bad! 

'Severe animus", "orange man bad" and now you are weighing in on my ability to weigh the truth.

 

Why the attack?

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, CanAm1980 said:

'Severe animus", "orange man bad" and now you are weighing in on my ability to weigh the truth.

 

Why the attack?

Animus-> personal hatred demonstrated toward someone

 

Orange man bad-> also personal hatred demonstrated toward someone

 

It's an "attack" (aka criticism) on your arguments and your approach (especially when looking at the context they're used and not in isolation), I dunno what to tell you if you take criticism of this approach personally... don't?

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23 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Animus-> personal hatred demonstrated toward someone

Thank you, I have a dictionary

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Orange man bad-> also personal hatred demonstrated toward someone

Show me the hatred examples. Is everyone who has any issue with the president also "orange man bad"?

 

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It's an "attack" (aka criticism) on your arguments

Really? Labelling someone as hate filled and angry is not personal?  

 

It could be a 

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and your approach (especially when looking at the context they're used and not in isolation), I dunno what to tell you if you take criticism of this approach personally... don't?

 " To all the people I gaslit, no I didn't"

 

 

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2 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

What causes the US death toll to be so much higher than other countries?

Start with Govs. Cuomo, Half-Whitmer, and the others who crammed virus-carriers into nursing homes.

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1 hour ago, CanAm1980 said:

Thank you, I have a dictionary

Show me the hatred examples. Is everyone who has any issue with the president also "orange man bad"?

 

Really? Labelling someone as hate filled and angry is not personal?  

 

It could be a 

 " To all the people I gaslit, no I didn't"

 

 

One example of many that illustrate the personal animus and hatred toward Trump isn't even from my own conclusions but from your own words:

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The comments he made about John McCain about liking those who are not captured still sticks in my throat.  That lack of understanding and support for any veteran, in particular for those who lost limbs or worse, was a deal breaker for me.

I am the first generation in my family that did not serve active duty in a conflict since WWI. That felt personal.

 

You made Trump's disparaging of McCain, as someone who tried to undermine his presidency (among other wretched acts), as personal to you because... people in your family supposedly served. Coincidentally the topic was about people who died in war which clearly didn't include McCain (trivial details lost in the focus of identity and nonsensical personalizing), but I digress.. 

 

Then I'm not sure what you're saying here.. is it that I'm personally attacking you because I criticized your arguments and methodology (eg you calling pieces of information someone edited and showed everyone "first hand" observation when you didn't observe anything first hand) of the argument?

 

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Labelling someone as hate filled and angry is not personal?

 

Noting that the justification used to suggest its personal are words you entirely made up ("hate filled and angry") and were not used by me at all. 

 

I'd merely suggest a different approach. This one has lost its legs, and I don't think trying to chop up sentences in my posts, invent things I said to try and make it personal is going to help any. Bad faith is written all over these tactics and this sort of response isn't going to scare people off from calling them what they are. 

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5 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

What causes the US death toll to be so much higher than other countries?

An unhealthy and sedentary population?

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