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Spouse has Green Card after successful AOS from B2 - is there any chance her family could visit her in the USA?

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Since there is no interview for ESTA approval, it won’t come up. That may be your saving grace, assuming the relatives are VWP eligible (no previous overstays, good moral character requirements, etc). Had there been an interview, the questioning could very well have led to a denial - I have seen it reported here - when the officer hears that the daughter/sister/mother entered as a tourist and stayed and assumes that she has reported back to the relatives of how it was done. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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21 hours ago, Pole2USHopeful said:

but I continuously here it's basically impossible after someone used a B2 and ended up as an immigrant.

These are unfounded stories part of the whole narrative that AOS is bad.  

Since no one typically knows for sure what the exact reason for denial of a visa is, people are merely speculating, seeing correlation (or worse causality) where there is none necessarily.  

 

Either way it's irrelevant. Poland is part of the VWP so my suggestion is for your family members to first apply for a visa waiver through ESTA and then go from there.  

 

No one can guarantee admission, but I see no reason why your family members would have a higher or lower chance of admission compared to other random tourists. If anything, typically, a family or friend group traveling for holidays are less scrutinised than people that travel alone.

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1 hour ago, Poseidon1212 said:

These are unfounded stories part of the whole narrative that AOS is bad.  

Since no one typically knows for sure what the exact reason for denial of a visa is, people are merely speculating, seeing correlation (or worse causality) where there is none necessarily.  

 

 

I can recall at least one instance here where the person said they were explicitly given this as the reason by the CO. The section of course was 214b. 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Call me cynical but I am never certain about some of these stories, I know with my B it seemed to be over in a flash and there is a tendency to over focus on something that may not be the locus of what actually happened.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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2 hours ago, Poseidon1212 said:

Seems to me that the reason was INA section 214(b) as per your own account.

I’m not going round in circles here. They reported being verbally told that was the reason by the CO. As I presume you know denials are given as a section number, not detailed with reasons. Applicants may or may not be verbally told the specific reasons behind the denial - we have seen reports here both from people who have been told, and from those who have not and are trying to understand what went wrong. If you want to disbelieve posters who state they are repeating what they were told by a CO, that’s your prerogative. 

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2 hours ago, Boiler said:

Call me cynical but I am never certain about some of these stories, I know with my B it seemed to be over in a flash and there is a tendency to over focus on something that may not be the locus of what actually happened.

None of my B interviews were over in a flash, and in all cases they looked at the documents I brought, contrary to common wisdom here. Not everyone has the same experience.

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The ineligibility for the visa falls under 214(b).

The reason(s) a CO determined that ineligibility applies are something they may or may not state or imply. Typical they do not say or imply a particularly reason, and presumably it's a combination of factors.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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