Misogyny, meet hypocrisy: Climate deniers go after AOC, Greta Thunberg with sexist attacks

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12 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Sure, it was time to change the topic since the other one was not going anywhere.  My contention is that the Democrats are the experts at creating victims through identity politics and you say they both do it so in your eyes everything is equal.  While I contend the GOP attempts to or panders to special interests which yo may be confusing with political identity categories, I do see a big difference between that and what the Dems do.  I have yet to talk to a GOP politician that assumes a specific group will vote for them whereas the Dems have all sorts of groups that according to some "are mentally ill" if they do not vote for the Democrat.  I simply see a big difference between the arrogance of the Left and the desire for any votes on the Right.

There is a reason the #walkaway movement is only in reference to one party...

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23 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

There is a reason the #walkaway movement is only in reference to one party...

 

  Yeah, it's because the other party uses the name #nevertrump. Both movements consist of a little action and a lot of hype. Yeah, a lot of Democrats walked away from Hillary, but very few of them ended up as registered Republicans. Same goes for the Republicans who can't stand Trump. For the most part, registered voters are not switching sides. They may have walked away, but it's because they are looking for better candidates.

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Its lonely in the middle of the road. 

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On 9/2/2019 at 2:03 PM, Steeleballz said:

 

   Given the response I've seen in the typical AOC threads here, this is a valid issue. I don't agree with everything the author is asserting, but the point is certainly taken. I don't know that sexism is the primary driver of what is going on. Seems to be that ad hominem attacks are on the rise everywhere, and certainly ad hominem attacks are all over the internet and online against AOC. Against others it's sometimes more centered around race or age. It come's up with Trump a lot too. Attacking the person instead of the position. Even somehow comes up with Beto in this seemingly unrelated thread. No one is immune.  

 

  Anyway, I don't really mind it. Typically if you have a winning argument, you don't have to resort to logical fallacy to convince someone of your position. To do so is just a round about way of proceeding with the argument while simultaneously conceding the argument. It's quite transparent.

 

    

 

 

I would say that AOC and the other two female congresswomen can't remember their names are doing it right if they got a lot of detractors in DC and throughout the internet....

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Ben & Katy said:

I would say that AOC and the other two female congresswomen can't remember their names are doing it right if they got a lot of detractors in DC and throughout the internet....

 

 

So you think Trump must be doing it right, he ticks those boxes.

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3 hours ago, Ben & Katy said:

I would say that AOC and the other two female congresswomen can't remember their names are doing it right if they got a lot of detractors in DC and throughout the internet....

 

 

If that is your standard then Trump must be doing it really really bigly right

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On 9/3/2019 at 6:37 PM, laylalex said:

There's no need to be facetious about this. The pay gap is real, and shouldn't be brushed off as some sort of SJW effort. Also, there is no zero sum here -- it's possible to address the gap AND also address issues relating to discrimination against non-binary people. That discussion is one that will probably not be settled until I'm old -- this is something for the generation below mine, really, the Gen Z kids. I'm more chill about how people want to identify than my Gen X friends are, who in turn seem more chill than the Boomers, who are starting to get irrelevant, as little as they want to believe that.

I agree with this...I'm at the tail end of the Boomer generation. I have always been just slightly left of center for that group. But the norms are changing so fast. Especially for our generation. It isn't my fight and it really doesn't and won't affect me as I ease into retirement and the great beyond. It is for my kids and their kids to work that out. I think people should be able to live as they choose as long as they are not causing harm to someone else but some of the gender identification controversies seem so artificial to me. But, really there are other issues that are much more important to me....such as funding Social Security and maintaining the value of my Federal Pension and savings.