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[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 hours ago, Neonred said:

Even better, let's do it when there is no hurricane threat!

I would love to, Sir!

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Alcohol causes more deaths than guns. Ban alcohol. 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, spookyturtle said:

Alcohol causes more deaths than guns. Ban alcohol. 

 

   This is generally facetious though. Most people saying this don’t actually want to ban alcohol. 

 

    Since I haven’t drank for almost 3 years now, I have nothing to lose and probably a lot to gain if alcohol was no longer sold and I still don’t think its a good idea. The concept of banning alcohol has been tried and solves nothing. It didn’t deter criminal activity, just turned more people into criminals. A similar prohibition on guns would have similar results. 

 

   None of that is to say that addressing the illegal and/or irresponsible behavior that can happen with these activities more seriously when it occurs isn’t something that should be looked at. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

10 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   This is generally facetious though. Most people saying this don’t actually want to ban alcohol. 

 

    Since I haven’t drank for almost 3 years now, I have nothing to lose and probably a lot to gain if alcohol was no longer sold and I still don’t think its a good idea. The concept of banning alcohol has been tried and solves nothing. It didn’t deter criminal activity, just turned more people into criminals. A similar prohibition on guns would have similar results. 

 

   None of that is to say that addressing the illegal and/or irresponsible behavior that can happen with these activities more seriously when it occurs isn’t something that should be looked at. 

I don't see it as facetious.   More ironic, to me.  But you're a reasonable guy, and know that taking guns away won't solve the current problem.  Not everyone agrees with us, and the uninformed think a "government buyback" is a good thing.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

1 hour ago, spookyturtle said:

Alcohol causes more deaths than guns. Ban alcohol. 

Well they tried that, it just facilitated a huge black market and many criminal enterprises, but I am sure guns would be different 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 minute ago, ALFKAD said:

I don't see it as facetious.   More ironic, to me.  But you're a reasonable guy, and know that taking guns away won't solve the current problem.  Not everyone agrees with us, and the uninformed think a "government buyback" is a good thing.

 

   It's both. I mean it can be. I would assume if you drink alcohol, you don't actually want to ban alcohol even though you might post about it? I think there are better arguments to be made on the gun issue.

 

  We often follow this line of thought and end up with something like ban doctors/hospitals because medical errors kill more people than firearms and alcohol abuse combined. If you are just going by absolute numbers, you are setting up a circular argument. It becomes pointless. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

9 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   It's both. I mean it can be. I would assume if you drink alcohol, you don't actually want to ban alcohol even though you might post about it? I think there are better arguments to be made on the gun issue.

 

  We often follow this line of thought and end up with something like ban doctors/hospitals because medical errors kill more people than firearms and alcohol abuse combined. If you are just going by absolute numbers, you are setting up a circular argument. It becomes pointless. 

I can agree with you on that.  But the point of Spooky's (dare I say ridiculous) "solution" isn't designed to start a "ban alcohol" movement; rather it is used to illustrate how ridiculous a "ban guns" movement is.  

 

And before anyone chimes in with, "we don't want to take your guns", let's  see what just one presidential candidate has to say:

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/betoorourke/status/1168616482529562625

 

 

Edited September 7, 2019 by ALFKAD

[Steeleballz 7,550]

5 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

I can agree with you on that.  But the point of Spooky's (dare I say ridiculous) "solution" isn't designed to start a "ban alcohol" movement; rather it is used to illustrate how ridiculous a "ban guns" movement is.  

 

And before anyone chimes in with, "we don't want to take your guns", let's  see what just one presidential candidate has to say:

 

 

  Just remember the logic works either way. That's assuming that politicians use logic to arrive at decisions in the first place. They actually did try banning alcohol once.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

1 hour ago, ALFKAD said:

I can agree with you on that.  But the point of Spooky's (dare I say ridiculous) "solution" isn't designed to start a "ban alcohol" movement; rather it is used to illustrate how ridiculous a "ban guns" movement is.  

 

And before anyone chimes in with, "we don't want to take your guns", let's  see what just one presidential candidate has to say:

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/betoorourke/status/1168616482529562625

 

 

Sorry but I ain't going to turn in my Aks no matter how much they offer.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

6 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Sorry but I ain't going to turn in my Aks no matter how much they offer.

Even for $25 in McDonald’s gift certificates? 

[spookyturtle 9,465]

1 hour ago, ALFKAD said:

I can agree with you on that.  But the point of Spooky's (dare I say ridiculous) "solution" isn't designed to start a "ban alcohol" movement; rather it is used to illustrate how ridiculous a "ban guns" movement is.  

 

And before anyone chimes in with, "we don't want to take your guns", let's  see what just one presidential candidate has to say:

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/betoorourke/status/1168616482529562625

 

 

They want all of our guns. And they are very patient. They start by taking a little at a time, like they have been doing for many decades. The end goal is no private firearm ownership. Except for criminals. 

[Neonred 3,446]

So what is it exactly that makes an AR-15 an assult weapon???

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

4 hours ago, spookyturtle said:

Even for $25 in McDonald’s gift certificates? 

Let me get right on that then....... I have heard of people making fake guns for buybacks in LA County. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

3 hours ago, Neonred said:

So what is it exactly that makes an AR-15 an assult weapon???

Its looks super scary and ugly????? 

Edited September 7, 2019 by Cyberfx1024

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, Neonred said:

So what is it exactly that makes an AR-15 an assult weapon???

Absolutely NOTHING.