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3 hours ago, Sonea said:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/bernie-sanders-predicts-10-000-080000919.html

 

What does everyone think? The article seems to miss an important calculation - if employers are off the hook for healthcare would that get funneled in to wages?

Of course not, they are Just off the hook


 

 

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18 hours ago, Sonea said:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/bernie-sanders-predicts-10-000-080000919.html

 

What does everyone think? The article seems to miss an important calculation - if employers are off the hook for healthcare would that get funneled in to wages?

But they, the corporations, are not off the hook in paying higher taxes.


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“Medicare-for-All, if it’s paid for responsibly...

 

Does anyone really believe the government can do anything responsibly?

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Medicare is an earned benefit, I think it is Medicaid for all.


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I wonder if this Medicaid/medicare for all thing requires the person to buy a supplement out of pocket. I mean with all my dad's serious medical bills this year ($200k+) without the supplement picking up the tab for some things, my parents would have been on the hook for a lot of stuff.


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20 hours ago, Sonea said:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/bernie-sanders-predicts-10-000-080000919.html

 

What does everyone think? The article seems to miss an important calculation - if employers are off the hook for healthcare would that get funneled in to wages?

 

  My employer already does that. We can opt out of health benefits and get a salary premium added back. It's mostly used by people who get coverage through their spouses elsewhere.  

 

   The history is interesting, in that healthcare originally became an employment "benefit" because wages were capped due to the labor shortage after WW2 and employers had to offer other incentives to attract workers. Now we are looking at the opposite side of the coin. The spiraling cost of healthcare packages is probably a major factor in keeping wages from increasing for many. I'm sure a lot of employers would prefer getting away from having to offer healthcare and just going to straight wage compensation. The costs of wage increases are a lot more predictable than healthcare increases. I'm not sure that medicare for all is the  right answer, but getting healthcare uncoupled from employment would definitely be a good thing IMO.

  


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36 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  My employer already does that. We can opt out of health benefits and get a salary premium added back. It's mostly used by people who get coverage through their spouses elsewhere.  

 

   The history is interesting, in that healthcare originally became an employment "benefit" because wages were capped due to the labor shortage after WW2 and employers had to offer other incentives to attract workers. Now we are looking at the opposite side of the coin. The spiraling cost of healthcare packages is probably a major factor in keeping wages from increasing for many. I'm sure a lot of employers would prefer getting away from having to offer healthcare and just going to straight wage compensation. The costs of wage increases are a lot more predictable than healthcare increases. I'm not sure that medicare for all is the  right answer, but getting healthcare uncoupled from employment would definitely be a good thing IMO.

  

Mine does as well. Spouses with better coverage at other companies tend to opt out and get a 300 to 400 boost. 

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16 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Does anyone really believe the government can do anything responsibly?

The government very often uses its unlimited time and resources to make people's lives miserable.

Quite proficiently, too, in most instances.


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I hope that medicare for all is run as efficiently as USCIS is.


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