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Is Spanish Common Law Marriage valid to request IR-1 or CR-1?

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Ryan H Grand Master

Ryan H   3,790

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***Moved from IR-1/CR-1 Process & Procedures to Europe & Eurasia regional forum; multiple posts not in English.  For future reference, if you wish to use a language other than English, please do so in the regional forums only.***

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
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June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
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April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
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December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

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February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

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ClickityClackity   133

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4 minutes ago, Ryan H said:

***Moved from IR-1/CR-1 Process & Procedures to Europe & Eurasia regional forum; multiple posts not in English.  For future reference, if you wish to use a language other than English, please do so in the regional forums only.***

There is only one user not responding in English. This is not a question for the regional forums. Could this be moved back please?

 

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When filing for a spousal visa, you have to provide a date of marriage on the form and include a marriage certificate.  

 

I wouldn’t begin the process with unclear information.  It can turn into a mess.  Best to get married and proceed with a marriage certificate in hand.

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ClickityClackity   133

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6 minutes ago, bakphx1 said:

When filing for a spousal visa, you have to provide a date of marriage on the form and include a marriage certificate.  

 

I wouldn’t begin the process with unclear information.  It can turn into a mess.  Best to get married and proceed with a marriage certificate in hand.

That sounds reasonable but probably a bit of a disappointment for them.

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22 minutes ago, Mary&Rafa said:

That sounds reasonable but probably a bit of a disappointment for them.

Do they have non-US citizen children who will be immigrating?

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Common law isn't enough for CR1/IR1, as others here have stated. If they do not want to get legally married, K1 wouldn't work either as they would be required to get married within 90 days of the beneficiary entering the US.

I am not a lawyer and nothing I say is or should be taken as legal advice. 

 

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Case Number: October 9th 2019

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IL: October 13th 2020

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Crazy Cat Grand Master

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Just now, Mary&Rafa said:

they do not. It's only them. 

Then a CR-1 would be vastly superior to a K-1, imo.......especially since they are already together.........

     Less expensive than K-1    
    No Adjustment of Status(I-485, I-131, I-765) required.    
    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US    
    Spouse is authorized to work immediately upon arrival.    
    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card within 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US    
    Opening a bank account, getting a driver's license, etc. are very easily accomplished with GC, SS card, and passport.

    Spouse has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.
   

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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ClickityClackity   133

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12 minutes ago, missileman said:

Then a CR-1 would be vastly superior to a K-1, imo.......especially since they are already together.........

     Less expensive than K-1    
    No Adjustment of Status(I-485, I-131, I-765) required.    
    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US    
    Spouse is authorized to work immediately upon arrival.    
    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card within 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US    
    Opening a bank account, getting a driver's license, etc. are very easily accomplished with GC, SS card, and passport.

    Spouse has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.
   

Thank you for this. I do wish my fiancee and I were together at the time we decided to get married. We would've definitely applied for CR-1. 

Too late now.

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There's no common law marriage visa for US immigration.  There's no dating visa.  There's no US visa for living together to just try things out for a few years and then decide....  It's either marriage or nothing.  Even with a K-1, the purpose is for marriage, not dating or common law or living together or dating.  No marriage, no immigration, that's the law and there's no way around it.  If they are happy with a permanent common law marriage then they need to live somewhere outside the US, like Spain.  Has the USC considered applying for a visa for permanent residency in the EU?

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52 minutes ago, carmel34 said:

There's no common law marriage visa for US immigration.  There's no dating visa.  There's no US visa for living together to just try things out for a few years and then decide....  It's either marriage or nothing.  Even with a K-1, the purpose is for marriage, not dating or common law or living together or dating.  No marriage, no immigration, that's the law and there's no way around it.  If they are happy with a permanent common law marriage then they need to live somewhere outside the US, like Spain.  Has the USC considered applying for a visa for permanent residency in the EU?

I could've done without the contempt that your answer distills. 

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This is the answer I got from the embassy in Madrid

 

Dear 

 

It has to be a fiancé visa, as for the spouse visa the “pareja de hecho” is a status not valid.

 

Regards.

 

Immigrant Visa Unit

Consular Section

U.S. Embassy Madrid

 
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